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Well a sports channel that shows sport obviously my dear chap unless of course you want it to be shown on one of these newfangled shopping channels.;)

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So a dedicated sports channel then? Aren't they all premium channels, or require a level above Freeview to watch them?

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Of course it should be shown on a dedicated sports channel but you knew that anyway.

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Well done Dave I say for getting the rights to show a boxing match. Dave is an entertainment channel and although boxing isn`t my thing I stil see it as entertainment so fits okay with the channel in my opinion.

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Well each to their own opinions as that's what this forum is all about.:)

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To be fair Den I can see your point here , that said I can also see why others say they welcome it being on Dave as it's available on freeview.

Generally sport on anything other than a dedicated sports channels is generally poor when it comes to build up and analysis and the studio guests are generally the cheapest they could find for the coverage.:D

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I don't know that at all.

The more sport that goes on a FTA channel, the better. And I say that as someone who never watches sport.

More and more sport has gone to pay TV over the years, depriving many people who can't afford the exorbitant price of pay TV sports channels, the chance to view it.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised at you Den for not taking that into consideration.

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l would rather pay a bit more to watch sport as basically they don't take sport very seriously on Terrestrial TV and treat it more as a irritating sideshow thus l prefer proper professional sports channels dedicated to sports rather then the amateurish approach taken to it on Terrestrial TV on a regular basis.

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Not that I care about the boxing, but I think any free to air sport is good. What if they broke the bank and got the cricket and shared it with Channel 4 though Den? Surely that is better than the alternative?

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Certain events will always be shown free to air and l am glad of that for some people but sadly the coverage of them is often shoddy and amateurish compared to the pay TV sports channels so what represents real value is entirely in the eye of the beholder.

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Stick it on the Bike channel..:)

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'Bit' more! Are you serious? Do you consider the current cost of Premium sports channels a 'bit'?

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aye it must be awful for a non sports fan. to me the price hike i can excuse the last two for bt sport europe which is brilliant for me. when i say brilliant my bill has gone up by 8 quid and id have paid a tenner for it. To anyone who doesnt like sport its awful. and the next price hike if it brings nothing is awful as its no longer making sense.

i've been on this forum 9 years. i was 21 when i joined. jesus.

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Oh come on Den you are being rather grumpy. Next you'll be saying the upcoming free to air spring / summer of sport featuring the Grand National, The French Open, The FA Cup final, The Olympics, Euro 2016, Wimbledon and selected F1 races should all be on either SKY, BT Sports or Eurosport :shocked:

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Dave's previous strapline was (and may still be) "The home of witty banter" which I'm not sure boxing is! However, Dave's male orientated audience should be a good fit for the sport.
Why has Dave not shown any sport before? Probably cost. But one reason that may have encouraged Dave to show the match is Channel 5. UK TV has positioned itself against the Channel 5 Group of channels and stated that it has more viewers. It needs to maintain this margin and this is a good opportunity to do so. The most likely competitor for the match was probably not a pay TV station like Box Nation (extra £11pm) but a Channel 5 group channel namely Channel 5 or Spike.

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Its certainly far better value then puffing away on a fag all the time or getting extremely inebriated come the weekend PB.:)

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Sport has been on the non pay TV channels since l was a young nipper but seriously its certainly not the right fit for the home of witty banter unless you think differently old boy.

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So you think the only reason people can't afford a pay TV sports subscription is because they spend their money on beer and fags? The Daily Mail must love you!

You seem oblivious to the fact that some people don't have enough money to spend on either. For those people, sport on Freeview, when so many sports events have disappeared from Freeview and gone to pay TV, is pretty good.

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l don't read that rubbish so maybe that's one of your own imagination PB.:)

l am not oblivious to the fact that some cannot afford fags or alcohol or the fact that many sports have disappeared from Freeview but some of the sport that has disappeared off Freeview TV has been of their own making in my book.

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So why criticise Dave for taking an opportunity to show something different to the freeview massives and in HD, I really struggle to understand why you called it "pathetic", variety is the spice of life and ember a a little.

Alternatively vote with your viewing and don't watch it but give it a chance I say before judging sir, you may like it.

To give an example recently Box office boxing of fury match was only SD and £18 or so I am more than happy for a free match

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Until we see Dave's presentation of the event, we can't judge how good or bad it was. Someone like Chad should provide us with some useful insight here.
If Spike was showing the match, I wonder what the reaction on this forum would be? :rant:

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I think £300 or more a year comes under the "more" category not the "bit more category".

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I don't know how I've manged to make the above post look so silly?

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Ha ha.
Sounds like it may be more like how ATP treats tennis than Wimbledon does.

The future of Box Nation
 

Meanwhile, Box Nation filed its accounts last month for the year to March 2015.
Key points:
- Company reported a loss of £1.7m, revenue was not reported.
- Company was looking to raise another £5m. This investment would put the company on the road to profitability for year ending March 2017
If not, its Plan B was to "generate steady income based on providing content at a sustainable cost".
- The company's auditors say that there is material uncertainty which may cast doubt on the company's ability to continue as a going concern.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...filing-history

The recent move onto Freeview seems to suggest that the company got a cash injection enabling it to expand but there are no filings at Companies House to support this. However, I can't see Freeview making a significant difference to its revenue.
Talk of overseas expansion seems to have ended.

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Hi All

I'm new to this and just got Big Kahuna package complete with Sky Sports and Movies.

My Question is does anyone have any idea if BT Sport ESPN will be showing NHRA Drag racing this year and future years, as ESPN America has lost their Contract to Fox Sports and BTSport ESPN used to show the qualifying and the Sunday 'Race Day' in quite long Telecasts.

Any news would be appreciated

Thanks in advance

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If you've not already done so, it's worthwhile asking this question over on the BT ESPN thread over on Digital Spy too. As that forum covers all providers it should have more and different users.

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Thanks for the reply


Will look to ask on Digital Spy also

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Sky Sports in £200m deal to show England's home and away matches in new UEFA Nations League

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/art...#ixzz3xD2ICb00

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BT confirms Fear the Walking Dead season two’s UK airdate.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-confirms-...os-uk-airdate/

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Virgin Media Ireland are to open a new sports channel (and several more).

I wonder if they will be added to the UK service?

http://www.todayfm.com/mobile/index.php?id=25594

As Premier Sports was not sold recently, I wonder if they will be taking that over and rebranding it??

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1,000 new posts created as BT seeks to repair poor customer service reputation.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/1000-new-pos...ce-reputation/

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BBC 'likely to lose more sport in wake of F1 and Olympics'

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...-rona-fairhead

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I'm guessing that works for you Den, as you only want sport on dedicated sports channels?

Theoretically, it should work for me as I don't watch sport, so more budget for other things. But it doesn't. The BBC should cater for all tastes and that includes sports fans. Pay TV has hijacked too many sports that should have stayed free to air.

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The dedicated sports channels cover the sports properly PB which BBC lost the art of doing properly a long time ago.

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den you know i love you but i cant agree with that comment. bbc coverage of european championships, world cups and olympics were superb. compare the coverage of the world cup to itv and youll know how good bbc is.

better presenters, better analysts, better commentary

if we're talking about how it would be better on sky sports where they could offer 24/7 coverage i'd agree with you but only due to the fact sky have dedicated channels etc

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I just hope that Den doesn't complain the next time pay TV sports channels go up in price.

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All things go up in price unless you don't live in the real world PB and if it goes up too much then l just like any other customer can take my trade elsewhere.:)

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To where though?

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There are many other decent services to subscribe to for entertainment if one does not subscribe to Sky Sports....

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But you were talking about sports. And since, with your approval, it's disappearing from FTA channels, what is your alternative source for sport?

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Who says l would subscribe to sport from a different source as there are many other things one can enjoy for far less in life PB.:)

You asked for my opinions on sport which is on the terrestrial TV channels and l gave it and l am only being honest.:)

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Have to disagree mate. Petrol has come down from £1.30/litre a few years ago to 99p/litre. 32 inch TVs are now available for £140, a few years ago the cheapest was over £200. And many food items are far cheaper too.
Inflation is zero.

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Petrol will go back up sooner then you think Andrew and so will a lot of other things.:)

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Colors has got rights to Box Cricket League 2016 from Sunday 28th February.

Colors can be found on Virgin UK Channel 826.

http://www.media247.co.uk/bizasia/co...ague-from-2016

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Not a channel I`ve heard of before,guess it`s a foreign one?

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l also think its a subscription channel as well.

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Colors is on M+, L and XL packages.

It use to be an subscription channel up to September 2013.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...epackaged.html

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Thankfully i`m not interested in cricket so not bothered what channel they put it on!

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Sky and BT reveal Derby-heavy Premier League fixtures for March ‘16.

https://recombu.com/digital/article/...ch-16-fixtures

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For all those longing for beIN Sport to enter the UK market, rumours abound that the company may be exiting France. http://www.digitaltveurope.net/49018...t-acquisition/

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BBC and ESPN secure deal for online Cricket World Cup highlights.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...cup-highlights

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Olympics free to air TV coverage as BBC signs deal with Discovery until 2024.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...discovery-deal

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It looks like Rupert is up to his old nefarious tricks again.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-confirms-...ox-and-fox-hd/

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To be honest Den I haven't got a lot of sympathy for either , they are both as bad as each other. In the end the consumer suffers which is a shame.

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Yes its very sad as you say in that its always the consumer that suffers sadly in the end.

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Ah, so that'll be the "bargaining for content" in action then?

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Sky are obviously worried about BT's competition, and it looks like Rupert/Sky have done what a child does and 'taken one of their bats home'.

Pathetic really.

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Agree completely although you kind of make BT sound better , remember BT will not allow wholesaling of its channel on the Sky platform. Sky customers who don't want BT's phone and BB are forced to pay in excess of £20.

The pair have also pushed up the cost of a landline and basic tv packages to fund football.

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Probably, but the public are fed up with the pettiness of actions such as this.

I in no way defend or myself pirate material, but the content providers need to look at their own small minded actions for some of the reasons for it's increase .

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Its so pathetic in my opinion SP but alas l don't think any one can be surprised at the way these companies behave any more.

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Any similar restrictive practices by BT I would also disagree with.

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And where are Ofcom in all this as they seem to have done their regular vanishing trick for the umpteenth time.

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In fairness, it's not in their remit. But this is a disappointing development which will only encourage BT to set up its own entertainment channels pushing up costs and increasing exclusivity. Understand Fox's reasons but I'm unhappy as to what this might lead to - bigger bills and less content.

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But it should be in their remit in my opinion as its the consumers again who are the ones always left to pick up the increased costs.

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That's something you'll have to raise with your MP but Ofcom's budget was substantially cut in 2011 so I don't think expansion looks likely.

If you think that a company is abusing its position then that's something for the Competition & Markets Authority, CMA.

CMA: "We work to promote competition for the benefit of consumers, both within and outside the UK. Our aim is to make markets work well for consumers, businesses and the economy." https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...kets-authority

Ofcom: "Ofcom is the communications regulator. We regulate the TV, radio and video on demand sectors, fixed line telecoms, mobiles, postal services, plus the airwaves over which wireless devices operate. On 1 February 2011 Ofcom completed an internal review and reorganisation. This was designed to reduce significantly expenditure in response to the challenge facing the whole of the public sector." http://www.ofcom.org.uk/about/

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BT Sport's dismal Champions League viewing figures raise concerns at Uefa.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...s-at-Uefa.html

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Yes one cannot be surprised at these dreadful figures but that's what happens when you sell your soul to the devil all in the name of greed.

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BT haven`t made full use of their Freeview channel in my opinion. Instead of it being off air or simply showing trailers for stuff on their pat channels they should be showing stuff like classic matches,re-runs or highlights of the past weekends matches. They should promote the channel too and advertise when a game is on live in the newspapers and tv listings. My mother only knows theres a live game on when someone mentions it on here and I let her know. But as someone as already mentioned I think they`re not keen on the channel being a success.
I can see ITV winning the next bid,if not outright then a share.

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ITV won't win it outright as there is no way they can afford the near on £1 billion in CL rights fees because that's likely to be the price when the contract rights come up for renewal next time.

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Yeah your`e probably right

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He's not probably right he's definitely right. The setup before was excellent in my opinion. Allow FTA broadcasters to bid for the games ITV showed and pay TV broadcasters to bid for the rest. At least that way we'd get either BBC , ITV , C4 or C5 with some games and either BT Sport or Sky Sports with the rest.

Whilst I understand these organisations want to make money they also need to think of promotion of the game , not everybody can afford pay TV.

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It will interesting to see how this develops. If BT successfully bid for ITV (recently rumoured to be a target for them in next 2 years) then you could see a very different strategy going forward with them showcasing selected BT Sport content on ITV.

At the time of wining the CL rights BT were also looking at biding for CH5 I think that's probably the original thought for where to show the fta games.

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Has anyone heard any news about the BT Sports contract renewal with VM?

I'm sure the current deal that includes it in XL TV was for 3 years which will be up at the end of this season.

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l have heard nothing currently but MB might know more.

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Yes, that'll be interesting, although I can't see BT being happy if they lost income from losing the existing wholesale arrangements. BT are relying heavily on the income they receive to pay the small fortune they need to find for the privilege of carrying these Premier league matches.

I think VM are in a reasonable bargaining position here.

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Don't know if any other member has noticed a BTSport trick that's just come out.

Wanted to watch the Spurs game recently, and they have stated that it is on BT Sport Stream.

Well we went onto it and its provided by Bet 365 and cost £5.00 and is a rip off.

You can watch the game on the computer - but on a small screen.

Just beware

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Virgin Media and BT did sign an new deal last summer so that BT Sport Europe launch on Virgin Media UK and Virgin Media Ireland.

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Thanks MB.

Any idea of the length of the new deal? I don't recall this being mentioned at the time.

Just want to make sure there'll be no surprise extra costs next season

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Good news for Superbike fans.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/itv4-to-show...ip-highlights/

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i was under the impression that didnt change the length of the original deal, any more info ?

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I think the VM Ireland deal may have been with Setanta who sell the channels in Ireland.

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Suzi Perry to join BT Sport’s motorsport team.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/suzi-perry-j...torsport-team/

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Step into the ring with STV Glasgow and STV Edinburgh for STV Fight Night on March 18 at 10pm. Commonwealth gold medalist Charlie Flynn and upcoming talent Joe Ham will both fight in the television programme which will broadcast live from Glasgow Hotel.

Freeview 23, Virgin 159, Sky 117 or watch from anywhere in the UK on the STV Player here:

http://player.stv.tv/live/glasgow/

Fairly small show but 2 promising young boxers being featured. More free boxing on TV

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This kind of content - local sports events - is the sort of content I had hoped local TV would show, so this move is encouraging.

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Have Fox explained their reasons, Andrew? I don't recall seeing them.

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Sky sports will be going up on June 1st price announced on Monday 21st March

http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/sky-r...mber-year.html

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If they put up the sports package by £12 then their phones will be red hot with subscription cancellations in my opinion.

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That will be me cancelling ... thats far too much

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Cant realistically see that happening who in the right mind would pay £12 more ?

Pay TV prices are already getting too high in my option.

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I suspect £12 will be a bit off the mark I do expect quite a big rise though to cover the start of the new TV deal which starts in August

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Yes, that would be a stupid move by Sky. I subscribed to the sport channels for many years for my son in law really, who would occasionally watch the football. With the last price rise I cancelled it because it seemed like a waste of money just to pay out such an amount each month for an occasional viewing.

A £12 a month increase will lead to only the diehard sport fanatics (no offence, I meant that kindly!) being prepared to pay such a price.

Sky have milked this as much as they can. The law of diminishing returns will now cut in.

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BT's portfolio has devalued Sky's sports offering imo. Its probably overpriced as it is.

To even consider a (another) price hike of that magnitude would be suicide. Their number of subscribers would be slashed in an instant.

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Indeed they lost the Champions league and Europa league yet they still are relentlessly increasing their prices.

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i can`t see sky increasing their sports channels by another £12 a month because if they did they would loose customers left right and centre. I for one wouldn`t be able to afford that kind of price rise.

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Maybe the increase is only effectively £5pm if the £7pm HD fee is removed? This would still be a steep rise though.

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It's not just about the amount of sporting rights Sky has, it's also the price they pay for them.

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Indeed they have way overpaid for those rights and are now preparing to claw them back relentlessly in the next few years as customers are going to find out.

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Sky Q to get 4K ahead of Premier League season

http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...gn=buffer-trfb

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It's also available to order now regardless of your ISP.

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Being somewhat cynical i wonder how much the bitrate of the other channels will drop to make space for it?

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Sky getting into VR also
https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...irtual-reality

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Sky to launch brand new sports channel Sky Sports Mix to all its TV customers in the UK and Ireland at no extra cost

From the launch this summer viewers can look forward to regular live football from competitions including La Liga, MLS, FIFA World Cup 2018 qualifiers, as well as a select number of Premier League and Football League matches.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...sky-sports-mix