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Itshim 28-02-2025 15:20
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36191994)
Because he (or his advisers) know how to butter Trump up in order to get him to do what they want. It’s called international diplomacy. It’s why Trump has been offered a second state visit to the UK (this has never happened before - second-term US presidents do usually visit again, and see the monarch, but it is short of an official state visit). Also why he invited him by flourishing a wax-sealed parchment under his nose in the Oval Office. It’s theatre, designed to stroke the ego of a very thin-skinned man-baby and con him into eating his vegetables.
So starmer is not adverse to bribery :shocked:

Chris 28-02-2025 15:41
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36192003)
So starmer is not adverse to bribery :shocked:
Diplomacy is all about give and take. :shrug:

1andrew1 28-02-2025 15:57
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36191995)
That's speculation. King Charles probably wants to address things with Trump, global warming is close to King Charles whereas Trump wants to drill like never before.
I expect King Charles will be guided by Court and government advisers on what topics to cover in his conversations with President Trump and knows when to agree to disagree or keep quiet. However, I expect Trump may be more free-flowing.

Paul 28-02-2025 19:51
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36191995)
King Charles probably wants to address things with Trump, global warming is close to King Charles whereas Trump wants to drill like never before.
That's speculation. ;)

Pierre 28-02-2025 20:24
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It went a lot better than Zelenskyy’s visit …………..

daveeb 28-02-2025 23:42
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Will be interesting to see how Starmer responds to Zelensky in the upcoming visit. Cozy up to him too much and the orange nutjob might get jealous and have second thoughts on the UK tariffs issue. What a minefield :erm:

Damien 28-02-2025 23:44
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Originally Posted by daveeb (Post 36192097)
Will be interesting to see how Starmer responds to Zelensky in the upcoming visit. Cozy up to him too much and the orange nutjob might get jealous and have second thoughts on the UK tariffs issue. What a minefield :erm:
Trump doesn't care if we support Ukraine. He has just had Starmer lobby for them in person.

jfman 28-02-2025 23:50
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Trump may well not care but British exceptionalism dictates that Starmer and others believe he does.

The one positive from tonight is the lobby journos in the weekend papers and podcast goons will shelve all the “Starmer did so well” puff pieces that were in motion.

Hugh 01-03-2025 00:54
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Welcome back, comrade

1andrew1 03-03-2025 11:50
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Looks like Ukraine s going to be the theme of Starmer's first term. (Too early to say if he will have a second or even a third term)

The whingers in the Conservative and Reform Parties who clutch at their well-thumbed copies of the Daily Express and remote control for GB News and throw a hissy fit every time a British PM has an affable discussion with an EU counterpart (they label it "betrayal of Brexit"), are thankfully remarkably quiet. Even Farage, not adverse to popping into a Russian Embassy and forgetting why he spent time there, has dialled down on repeating the line that the invasion was the West's fault.

Itshim 03-03-2025 18:29
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36192006)
Diplomacy is all about give and take. :shrug:
Giving and receiving of bribes :dozey:

ianch99 03-03-2025 19:10
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36192198)
Looks like Ukraine s going to be the theme of Starmer's first term. (Too early to say if he will have a second or even a third term)

The whingers in the Conservative and Reform Parties who clutch at their well-thumbed copies of the Daily Express and remote control for GB News and throw a hissy fit every time a British PM has an affable discussion with an EU counterpart (they label it "betrayal of Brexit"), are thankfully remarkably quiet. Even Farage, not adverse to popping into a Russian Embassy and forgetting why he spent time there, has dialled down on repeating the line that the invasion was the West's fault.
Strange how Farage's favourite word "sovereignty" seems to be missing from his take on Ukraine and its invasion by Russia.

1andrew1 03-03-2025 20:06
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36192235)
Strange how Farage's favourite word "sovereignty" seems to be missing from his take on Ukraine and its invasion by Russia.
It's the wrong kind of sovereignty as Ukranian sovereignty is not in the interests of a country that Farage seemed to be close to ten years ago.

It's the wrong kind of sovereignty in the same way that Reuters and Associated Press are not invited to White House press conferences as they're the wrong kind of free speech.

https://committees.parliament.uk/wri...e/105608/html/
https://www.bylinesupplement.com/p/n...ssia-with-love
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...brexit-meeting

denphone 04-03-2025 11:22
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36192235)
Strange how Farage's favourite word "sovereignty" seems to be missing from his take on Ukraine and its invasion by Russia.
Farage the plastic patriot strikes again...

Paul 12-03-2025 16:21
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More woes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwynxyxl9e1o

Quote:
Health Secretary Wes Streeting has called for his former assistant to stand down as an east London councillor after the aide admitted indecent exposure.

Sam Gould, 33, a Redbridge representative, pleaded guilty to two separate counts at Barkingside Magistrates' Court in Ilford on Monday.

The Labour councillor has been suspended from the party but "there is no process for his suspension" from Redbridge Council, the local authority says.


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