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heero_yuy 11-10-2022 18:17
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136509)
They are all as bad as each other....
That's a truism but who's best to run the economy: The Tory ferrets fighting in a bag or the rabble alliance under capt. Hindsight.

We deserve better than this .:rolleyes:

denphone 11-10-2022 18:27
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136509)
Again as in other threads this is not whataboutery it's identifying that it's a cross party issue. ;)

They are all as bad as each other....
l am not doubting it is a cross party issue but we were discussing Kwasi Kwarteng.:)

1andrew1 11-10-2022 18:27
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136509)
Again as in other threads this is not whataboutery it's identifying that it's a cross party issue. ;)

They are all as bad as each other....
Without excusing any poor admin, I think we're all sharp enough to appreciate that some ommissions are more important than others .

denphone 11-10-2022 18:33
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36136510)
That's a truism but who's best to run the economy: The Tory ferrets fighting in a bag or the rabble alliance under capt. Hindsight.

We deserve better than this .:rolleyes:
Given the Conservatives have been the governing party for the last 12 years to suggest the other political parties are just as bad is very much a weak straw man argument.

The Conservatives wholly own this mess.

Mr K 11-10-2022 18:44
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36136514)
The Conservatives wholly own this mess.
Slight amendment Den, the Tories and those that keep voting for them regardless own this mess.

papa smurf 11-10-2022 18:45
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36136514)
Given the Conservatives have been the governing party for the last 12 years to suggest the other political parties are just as bad is very much a weak straw man argument.

The Conservatives wholly own this mess.
Whataboutery that then folks:Yikes:

denphone 11-10-2022 18:48
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36136516)
Slight amendment Den, the Tories and those that keep voting for them regardless own this mess.
Voters have the right whether right or wrong to vote for whom suits them personally.

Julian 11-10-2022 18:52
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36136514)
Given the Conservatives have been the governing party for the last 12 years to suggest the other political parties are just as bad is very much a weak straw man argument.

The Conservatives wholly own this mess.
Totally agree.

But don't imagine for one minute that the lying, hypocritical, fence sitting, racist labour party under starmer would be any better.

They need a new leader or the country will be screwed for years.

Mr K 11-10-2022 19:31
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136519)
Totally agree.

But don't imagine for one minute that the lying, hypocritical, fence sitting, racist labour party under starmer would be any better.

They need a new leader or the country will be screwed for years.
Who do you suggest?

mrmistoffelees 11-10-2022 19:46
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136519)
Totally agree.

But don't imagine for one minute that the lying, hypocritical, fence sitting, racist labour party under starmer would be any better.

They need a new leader or the country will be screwed for years.
The question is, could they do any worse ?

1andrew1 11-10-2022 19:52
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136519)
Totally agree.

But don't imagine for one minute that the lying, hypocritical, fence sitting, racist labour party under starmer would be any better.

They need a new leader or the country will be screwed for years.
I don't know of any other political leader, Labour or Conservative, who has lost the country £65bn in one mini budget leading the Bank of England to intervene at the time and again today. It's without precedent and pretty much anyone would do better including Starmer.

I don't think the Labour Party (and for that matter the Conservative Party or Liberal Democrat Party) is racist. All parties including the Labour Party will have had members in them who are racist and will doubtless have expelled councillors who who were, too.

TheDaddy 11-10-2022 20:08
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36136500)
Is this true?

If so, how is this allowed? Baffled ..
No wonder he was laughing at The Queen's funeral, he thought he'd get away with it

Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136509)
They are all as bad as each other....
They're not, at the moment not only aren't in the same league they’re playing different sports

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36136510)
That's a truism but who's best to run the economy: The Tory ferrets fighting in a bag or the rabble alliance under capt. Hindsight.

We deserve better than this .:rolleyes:
Oh I wonder who is better, if 12 years of this bs isn't enough for you to have come to a decision then I suspect you'll never be able to and no we don't deserve better than this, we get the politicians we deserve because we've allowed them to be put in place

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36136519)
Totally agree.

But don't imagine for one minute that the lying, hypocritical, fence sitting, racist labour party under starmer would be any better.

They need a new leader or the country will be screwed for years.
Racist labour party? Is this about antisemitism again, where the equality act was found to have been breached a total of two times?

Damien 11-10-2022 21:28
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
The Bank of England have confirmed they'll stop intervening to buy government debt on Friday which has sent the pound falling again.

1andrew1 11-10-2022 22:12
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
Good summary of the dilemma faced by Kwarteng and Truss.
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By the way, if the fundamental threat to financial stability is - as I argue - the unfunded tax cuts, a restoration of stability requires the Chancellor to cancel or massively delay the cuts (and increase corporation tax as per Sunak’s plan).

But I don’t think there has ever been a u-turn on that scale in modern politics. Kwarteng could not survive that humiliation and it is not clear the PM could either, because the big money cuts were her summer leadership pledges. This is a monster of an interconnected political and economic crisis.
https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1579901975768203265

jfman 11-10-2022 22:58
Re: Liz Truss [Prime Minister]
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36136535)
Good summary of the dilemma faced by Kwarteng and Truss.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1579901975768203265
It’s only a dilemma in Peston’s little mind as business editor pretending to be a political analyst.

If he stuck to his original view of the world he would see it’s no dilemma at all. More chaos is more profitable for the hedge funds and vulture capitalists. Especially if they are funding the people crashing the bus.


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