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jfman 26-07-2024 23:28

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36179784)
:rofl: the Commonwealth Games.

I'm going to call it now - linear television will survive longer than the Commonwealth Games.

Chris 27-07-2024 09:57

Re: The future of television
 
You’re not likening the Friendly Games™ to a lettuce now, shurley?

OLD BOY 28-07-2024 16:12

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36179802)
I'm going to call it now - linear television will survive longer than the Commonwealth Games.

How do you define ‘linear television’, jfman? :naughty::rofl:

jfman 28-07-2024 16:18

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36179882)
How do you define ‘linear television’, jfman? :naughty::rofl:

Everyone knows I know what it is except you, OB.

Hugh 28-07-2024 16:41

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36179882)
How do you define ‘linear television’, jfman? :naughty::rofl:

jf’s definition

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...r#post36141950

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36141945)
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1197

My definition of a linear channel has always been clear.

A sequence of continuous programming where everyone watching that channel (or stream) is watching the exact same thing at the same time according to what the broadcaster sends out. It’s completely agnostic to the method of delivery.

Your definition

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...postcount=1615

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Linear TV is live in the sense that we are watching it as it is being broadcast. That’s why it is often described as ‘live TV’.

OLD BOY 28-07-2024 18:00

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[QUOTE=Hugh;36179886]jf’s definition

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...r#post36141950 /QUOTE]

Thank you for that, in which case I agree with him, because that will include FAST channels.

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36179883)
Everyone knows I know what it is except you, OB.

Not a very helpful response, jfman, but I guess that's to be expected.

Just as well we have Hugh....:erm:

Mr K 28-07-2024 18:01

Re: The future of television
 
Tv is nice I know, but it's mostly repeats or crap, streamed or otherwise.
Don't you think we all ought to worry more about the future of the NHS? :confused:

OLD BOY 28-07-2024 18:03

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36179894)
Tv is nice I know, but it's mostly repeats or crap, streamed or otherwise.
Don't you think we all ought to worry more about the future of the NHS? :confused:

We are all capable of worrying about more than one thing at a time, Mr K.

Paul 28-07-2024 18:59

Re: The future of television
 
Since when has Linear TV "often" been described as 'live TV' ?

Live TV is broadcasting an event as it happens, which is a small fraction of Linear TV.

spiderplant 28-07-2024 20:10

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36179906)
Since when has Linear TV "often" been described as 'live TV' ?

At least 20 years.

Stephen 28-07-2024 22:17

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The front of a STB doesn't verify the definition of a broadcast linear TV.

Live is literally broadcasting as it happens. Linear is literally the daily channels broadcasting shows for people to watch at a set time. Live TV is part of that but only a little. Like sporting events etc.

spiderplant 28-07-2024 22:51

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36179919)
The front of a STB doesn't verify the definition of a broadcast linear TV.

Paul asked how long the term had been used to describe linear TV. I provided evidence that it is at least 20 years.

A search of this forum finds many uses of "live TV" from 2003, whereas the first use of "linear TV" was in 2007.

Chris 28-07-2024 23:10

Re: The future of television
 
I think the confusion lies in the fact that ‘live TV’ has long been a term used by users of ‘+’ type services, (Sky/Freeview/VM) to distinguish between watching a channel as-broadcast or catching up because you paused it to answer the door. It has much more recently arisen in this discussion as a way of trying to distinguish between a linear broadcast channel and an on-demand stream. The two uses are subtly different, but different enough to cause confusion.

Paul 29-07-2024 02:11

Re: The future of television
 
Actually, I asked how long has it has "often" been described as Live TV.

I asked around my family (and friends) and everyone defined Live TV as what you would expect, broadcast of an event as its happening, for example, a Football Match.

They consider the rest to be "Terrestrial TV" or "Streaming (TV)".
Granted, no one (I know) calls it Linear TV, but that wasnt the point, the point is they have never called it "Live TV".

Before streaming was a thing, it was just TV, and Live TV.

OLD BOY 29-07-2024 09:22

Re: The future of television
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36179906)
Since when has Linear TV "often" been described as 'live TV' ?

Live TV is broadcasting an event as it happens, which is a small fraction of Linear TV.

We spend far too much time agonising over what a ‘linear channel’ is. We all know it is scheduled TV, which includes live streams, but over time the media has used the phrase very loosely to mean our conventional TV channels as shown on our EPGs.

Given the title of this thread, we need to be less picky about these terms and the pedantic detail as demonstrated in so many posts and actually debate how we see TV changing over the years.

Much now depends on the government’s attitude to switching off the transmitter signals in favour of IPTV, which they may have trouble resisting, given the international pressure to make more bandwidth available for 5G, the cost to broadcasters in paying out for conventional broadcasting over the transmitters when a cheaper alternative is available, etc.

Then, if IPTV becomes the means of broadcasting TV, there is the question of (a) whether audiences will choose ‘on demand’ over the listed channels and (b) whether the broadcasters themselves actually want to spend more than they need to so that people are given that option.

We will see, but I think I know where this will end.


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