Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35948638)

Well we are pretty happy with it but its all in the eye of the beholder as they say..

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35948401)

Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35948636)

I got a few 4K tvs about 4 years ago now (well 2 of them like 3 years ago, hubby got one) and the idea was that Sky would add in a 4K box but Q sounds like a disaster and the few updates that they have done on the old HD boxes suck...(there is now such a slow clunky interface, search has issues etc).

The amount of 4K content is abysmal, too. UK TV (not that specific set of networks but in general) really is in a bad place these days and patience is going to have to be the key right now. The wait may be long though - for now the likes of streaming services seem to be the only way to go.

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 35948640)

Yep - any content from CatchUp or OnDemand (including BBC iPlayer) has to be downloaded to view.

Youtube streams so it can be done.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35948644)

I've said it before - UHD takes up far too much recording space. HD is bad enough - I have to spread these recordings over three boxes now as opposed to the 1TB Tivo we had before, on which I recorded most programmes in SD. I wouldn't even think of recording UHD. For this reason, I think that most UHD is likely to be streamed or on demand, unless of course we can 'record' to the cloud. If it were to be otherwise, I am sure our UHD-ready V6 boxes would have been manufactured with a bigger hard drive.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35948618)

Broadcastnow is reporting that Virgin media UK are looking into having an EPG relaunch with one idea being having all the +1 (like ITV +1 and Quest +1) having their own dedicated section. (cant post link do to broadcastnow paywall)

Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35948647)

Yeah they do take up more space but the problem that I have is that the storage size for boxes doesn't increase with UHD / 4K boxes. So, for Sky I have a 2TB and 1.5 TB box - both HD and from what I understand it is the same for Q - 2 and 1.5 for the mini. It would be nice to have had Q offer more space if size of programming was an issue.



The old Sky HD boxes are slightly more outdated, in that sense but the functionality cannot be questioned - it is maybe not as efficient as newer models but it doesn't break down and the old planner / search and cinema system was nowhere near as clunky as a 4K system UI / internal settings superimposed onto an HD box.

Even though I don't have as much experience with Virgin they do seem to both have some gimmicks as of late which is frustrating for their insistence of fluidity / ownership of boxes etc. What worked was something both companies have messed with some, and there is only so much you can do for now. It does not mean that you are sitting on your laurels if you don't come up with new idea every single year and some of these overhauls are useless.



Virgin have a far better system on that one in general due to the fact that you can record anything from like the previous week off the planner, too. I have to admit that I am irked by Sky's system of on demand, too - not just that it downloads and space becomes an issue too but you have to watch it out in a certain time before it goes so you are constantly micro managing your box altogether.



Yeah now that both companies have started selling boxes they better produce the content or customers will be left irate...especially those who had to pay for installations.

Not sure if Sky even has any native content of 4K - wouldn't effect us anyway as we still have the HD boxes.

Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35948679)

World Cup 2018: BBC iPlayer to stream matches in 4K HDR - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44308154

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35948644)

UHD takes up far too much recording space.... I wouldn't even think of recording UHD

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35948722)

The UHD broadcasts now are about the same bandwidth as BBC HD was when it first launched. Yet you recorded that on your 160GB V+. You could record six times as much UHD on your V6.

And they are less than half the bandwidth of each analogue channel. I bet you used to record those too.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35948730)

Thank you, spiderplant, that's news to me. If UHD takes up about the same space as HD, I shall be very happy!

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35948618)

Broadcastnow is reporting that Virgin media UK are looking into having an EPG relaunch with one idea being having all the +1 (like ITV +1 and Quest +1) having their own dedicated section. (cant post link do to broadcastnow paywall)

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35948740)

Anyone with a subscription able to share any more detail?

Link is: https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...129711.article

Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas (Post 35948675)

So what are the secondary boxes even for then...just to use on a separate TV? This is ridiculous, they want you to get a new box, pay for install (and not get to keep the box / lose all your other recordings on your old set up) and all for the sake of no 4K content to begin with and boxes that can't record but cost you an extra 10 bucks a month to use? Hope somebody has a spare handful of TVs, too.

What a useless waste.