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Hugh 24-10-2021 00:45
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098604)
What do you believe it says about me and my beliefs?

What do you think are the reasons why people harass & bully others on the internet?
What do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?

RichardCoulter 24-10-2021 01:37
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098606)
What do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?
I shall answer your questions after you've had the courtesy to answer mine.

Maggy 24-10-2021 09:46
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098608)
I shall answer your questions after you've had the courtesy to answer mine.
Can you be a bit more specific about which question or where you posted it? I've not got the time to go check.

Hugh 24-10-2021 12:25
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098602)
Quote:
My own belief is that a lot of them are inadequate people who have no real influence or haven't succeeded in life. They are often unemployed, in dead end jobs or are dominated by their partner. Some no longer feel relevant and realise they have passed their peak because they have retired.
That probably says more about you (and your beliefs) than you realise…
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098604)
What do you believe it says about me and my beliefs?

What do you think are the reasons why people harass & bully others on the internet?
I think it says that you think about people in simplified stereotypes, commenting adversely about others when you know nothing about them, their circumstances, and their motivations - I think you project your own biases onto others, and you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you or who negatively comments on things you've posted is bigoted against your disability, when often it has nothing to do with that, but with what you've posted, but your default position seems to be "you're bullying me because I'm disabled" (which is amusing considering your opinions/posts on other groups with "protected characteristics").

I think people harass & bully others on the internet because they are often cowards who hide behind a screen/keyboard (sometimes anonymously, but more often are happy to post using their real names), and so are disconnected (both emotionally & physically) from the person they are said to be harassing; often too, it is just an extension of their everyday behaviour, because they have no empathy for others, or lack the imagination to "put themselves in others' shoes", so have no realisation of the negative impact they could be causing, or even worse, don't care.

The challenge is that this is a very complex subject which people think has simple solutions - there isn't, and often trying to implement simple solutions that aren't fit for purpose just create more problems.

Anyway, back to you - what do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?

Paul 24-10-2021 13:54
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098608)
I shall answer your questions after you've had the courtesy to answer mine.
Ah, the old 'dodge the awkward question', how surprising.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098601)
We will have the right balance between people being allowed to freely express their views, whilst preventing those who wish to continue to abuse the right to free speech by bullying, insulting and belittling others- often those in minority or disadvantaged groups.
Who decides the balance ?

Abuse in who's opinion ?
Bullying in who's opinion ?
Insulting in who's opinion ?
Etc etc.

Anyone can claim they are being "insulted", "abused" or "bullied"
(whenever they dont agree with what someone else says to them).
Some do it regularly on this very forum, dont you they.

TheDaddy 24-10-2021 14:10
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098624)
I think it says that you think about people in simplified stereotypes, commenting adversely about others when you know nothing about them, their circumstances, and their motivations - I think you project your own biases onto others, and you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you or who negatively comments on things you've posted is bigoted against your disability, when often it has nothing to do with that, but with what you've posted, but your default position seems to be "you're bullying me because I'm disabled" (which is amusing considering your opinions/posts on other groups with "protected characteristics").

I think people harass & bully others on the internet because they are often cowards who hide behind a screen/keyboard (sometimes anonymously, but more often are happy to post using their real names), and so are disconnected (both emotionally & physically) from the person they are said to be harassing; often too, it is just an extension of their everyday behaviour, because they have no empathy for others, or lack the imagination to "put themselves in others' shoes", so have no realisation of the negative impact they could be causing, or even worse, don't care.

The challenge is that this is a very complex subject which people think has simple solutions - it isn't, and often trying to implement simple solutions that aren't fit for purpose just create more problems.

Anyway, back to you - what do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?
Nail. Hit. On. Head :tu:

Russ 24-10-2021 16:00
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098602)
That probably says more about you (and your beliefs) than you realise…
:clap:

---------- Post added at 16:00 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098624)
I think it says that you think about people in simplified stereotypes, commenting adversely about others when you know nothing about them, their circumstances, and their motivations - I think you project your own biases onto others, and you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you or who negatively comments on things you've posted is bigoted against your disability, when often it has nothing to do with that, but with what you've posted, but your default position seems to be "you're bullying me because I'm disabled" (which is amusing considering your opinions/posts on other groups with "protected characteristics").

I think people harass & bully others on the internet because they are often cowards who hide behind a screen/keyboard (sometimes anonymously, but more often are happy to post using their real names), and so are disconnected (both emotionally & physically) from the person they are said to be harassing; often too, it is just an extension of their everyday behaviour, because they have no empathy for others, or lack the imagination to "put themselves in others' shoes", so have no realisation of the negative impact they could be causing, or even worse, don't care.

The challenge is that this is a very complex subject which people think has simple solutions - there isn't, and often trying to implement simple solutions that aren't fit for purpose just create more problems.

Anyway, back to you - what do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?
And so say all of us :clap:

Mad Max 24-10-2021 19:14
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098624)
I think it says that you think about people in simplified stereotypes, commenting adversely about others when you know nothing about them, their circumstances, and their motivations - I think you project your own biases onto others, and you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you or who negatively comments on things you've posted is bigoted against your disability, when often it has nothing to do with that, but with what you've posted, but your default position seems to be "you're bullying me because I'm disabled" (which is amusing considering your opinions/posts on other groups with "protected characteristics").

I think people harass & bully others on the internet because they are often cowards who hide behind a screen/keyboard (sometimes anonymously, but more often are happy to post using their real names), and so are disconnected (both emotionally & physically) from the person they are said to be harassing; often too, it is just an extension of their everyday behaviour, because they have no empathy for others, or lack the imagination to "put themselves in others' shoes", so have no realisation of the negative impact they could be causing, or even worse, don't care.

The challenge is that this is a very complex subject which people think has simple solutions - there isn't, and often trying to implement simple solutions that aren't fit for purpose just create more problems.

Anyway, back to you - what do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?

Hugh, that's a really good post....:D

jfman 27-10-2021 00:57
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36098624)
I think it says that you think about people in simplified stereotypes, commenting adversely about others when you know nothing about them, their circumstances, and their motivations - I think you project your own biases onto others, and you think that anyone who doesn't agree with you or who negatively comments on things you've posted is bigoted against your disability, when often it has nothing to do with that, but with what you've posted, but your default position seems to be "you're bullying me because I'm disabled" (which is amusing considering your opinions/posts on other groups with "protected characteristics").

I think people harass & bully others on the internet because they are often cowards who hide behind a screen/keyboard (sometimes anonymously, but more often are happy to post using their real names), and so are disconnected (both emotionally & physically) from the person they are said to be harassing; often too, it is just an extension of their everyday behaviour, because they have no empathy for others, or lack the imagination to "put themselves in others' shoes", so have no realisation of the negative impact they could be causing, or even worse, don't care.

The challenge is that this is a very complex subject which people think has simple solutions - there isn't, and often trying to implement simple solutions that aren't fit for purpose just create more problems.

Anyway, back to you - what do you think are the reasons why people threaten others on social media/forums with lawyers?

Do you think this is bullying others on the internet?
Missed this at the time but spot on.

Hom3r 29-10-2021 10:14
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36098512)
Dont use twatter, fakebook or instacrap and you'll defintely be much happier.

They are the worse thing ever to happen to the internet.
Without Facebook I couldn't have told my cousin in Australia that my mum had died, I was able to use the phone function on Message.

Paul 29-10-2021 14:55
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Right, because its the only communication system on the planet. :rolleyes:

Stuart 31-10-2021 22:58
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36099173)
Without Facebook I couldn't have told my cousin in Australia that my mum had died, I was able to use the phone function on Message.
If you have a phone number, there is a perfectly good international phone system that also has the bonus that it doesn't generally scrap your data and profile you.

TheDaddy 01-11-2021 00:08
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36098636)
Ah, the old 'dodge the awkward question', how surprising.
Wonder if Hugh will ever get the courtesy of an answer, like what was demanded of him :)

Itshim 01-11-2021 18:27
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36098588)
In this country we have (and will continue to have) free speech within defined parameters of appropriateness when the Onine Harms Bill becomes law.
I.e say what you want as long as you agree with me . Welcome to new China :shocked:

pip08456 01-11-2021 18:30
Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36099537)
Wonder if Hugh will ever get the courtesy of an answer, like what was demanded of him :)
From Richard? I highly doubt it!


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