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nstokes 27-11-2011 15:27

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35336115)
No, it's an older standard. Good for the time, but deprecated now.

MPEG-4 offers superior compression for the same bitrates, and that compression has variable macroblocking (MPEG-2 is fixed at 8x8) so any aliasing will be much less obvious due to this and some other techniques such as CABLC which increase efficiency.

For quick reference, MPEG-2 is used on DVDs and MPEG-4 on Blu-ray. Basically if all Blu-ray content were encoded in MPEG-2 at roughly the same quality settings the files would be roughly four or five times the size!


Ouch that is big. At least TIVo will be able to do MPEG 4 and if/when it does that will mean recording capacity will go up as well i assume, so win win all round

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336108)
No difference really , Mpeg4 is more compressed. A TIVO 1TB box recording HD can do 120 hrs as opposed to a Sky+HD 1TB box which can record 240hrs HD so there are advantages for the customer also.

true point but as my post above hopefully if/when does go to MPEG 4 TIVO will have more recording hours

zekeisaszekedoes 27-11-2011 15:29

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336117)
There are actually some Blu Rays that were encoded in Mpeg2 believe it or not.

Ha! I bet the quality is noticeably inferior to newer MPEG-4 releases with high quality transfers! :D

mhatter67 27-11-2011 15:30

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35336113)
That would take up a lot of bandwith, the plan is to move everyone over to TiVo and that is MPEG4.

That could take a very long time, the only reason I had my 8 years old Pace SD box replace is I wanted HD!

zekeisaszekedoes 27-11-2011 15:32

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35336118)
Ouch that is big. At least TIVo will be able to do MPEG 4 and if/when it does that will mean recording capacity will go up as well i assume, so win win all round

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true point but as my post above hopefully if/when does go to MPEG 4 TIVO will have more recording hours

If you want more recording time, at present the only way to do it would be open the TiVo box and replace the harddrive. Apparently it's been done but violates the terms/conditions of your agreement with Virgin Media so I wouldn't recommend it, but if you went from 500GB to 2TB (maximum these will support, I think) you'd quadruple your recording time and get well over 200 HD hours according to the screencap from the page I linked:

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muppetman11 27-11-2011 15:34

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35336118)
Ouch that is big. At least TIVo will be able to do MPEG 4 and if/when it does that will mean recording capacity will go up as well i assume, so win win all round

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true point but as my post above hopefully if/when does go to MPEG 4 TIVO will have more recording hours

I agree , that was my point if VM switched to Mpeg4 TIVO would have a massive storage increase , don't get me wrong its a lot now.

nstokes 27-11-2011 15:41

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35336127)
If you want more recording time, at present the only way to do it would be open the TiVo box and replace the harddrive. Apparently it's been done but violates the terms/conditions of your agreement with Virgin Media so I wouldn't recommend it, but if you went from 500GB to 2TB (maximum these will support, I think) you'd quadruple your recording time and get well over 200 HD hours according to the screencap from the page I linked:

http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/tivo_upg...o_capacity.jpg

ill take a look, just becuase i like the idea, i wouldnt do it my self as its not my equipment. The 500gb recording space is enough for me at mo, max space i have got to i think is 12%

the recording space in the pic is massive, that is alot of tv viewing esp in SD

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336129)
I agree , that was my point if VM switched to Mpeg4 TIVO would have a massive storage increase , don't get me wrong its a lot now.

and also it would be more equal to skys recording capacity as well

mhatter67 27-11-2011 15:44

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336129)
I agree , that was my point if VM switched to Mpeg4 TIVO would have a massive storage increase , don't get me wrong its a lot now.

Has the VM network capacity issue gone away with the switch off Analogue and headend upgrades so the need for Mpeg4 streamed channels are less important if VM want more HD channels?

Doz007 27-11-2011 15:47

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Does anyone recall how long it takes for the channel logos to show up in the mini guide?

I'm sure they were there almost instantaneously with my first TiVo....

zekeisaszekedoes 27-11-2011 15:48

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I believe the 2012 analogue switchoff concerns only the regular over-the-air channels (BBC One, BBC Two, ITV1, Channel 4, 5) as Virgin Media switched off their "analogue via cable" service last year.

There has been talk of using the former broadcast frequencies for other purposes, but either way it won't make any difference to a cable service provider like Virgin Media. Could be wrong though!

zantarous 27-11-2011 15:50

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35336138)
Does anyone recall how long it takes for the channel logos to show up in the mini guide?

I'm sure they were there almost instantaneously with my first TiVo....

On both my Tivos I had to reboot the box for the logos to appear.

Digital Fanatic 27-11-2011 16:13

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35336136)
Has the VM network capacity issue gone away with the switch off Analogue and headend upgrades so the need for Mpeg4 streamed channels are less important if VM want more HD channels?

We are constantly working to improve capacity, we have plenty at the moment, further work is being carried out to future proof the network :)

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35336139)
I believe the 2012 analogue switchoff concerns only the regular over-the-air channels (BBC One, BBC Two, ITV1, Channel 4, 5) as Virgin Media switched off their "analogue via cable" service last year.

There has been talk of using the former broadcast frequencies for other purposes, but either way it won't make any difference to a cable service provider like Virgin Media. Could be wrong though!

We still have pockets of analogue only areas, but these are being "over-built" with digital equipment, for example exTelewest West London and part of Ex-NTL Southampton. Derry in N.Ireland was converted earlier this year. areas were we are unable to upgrade due to planning laws, such as westminster are being abandoned.

mhatter67 27-11-2011 16:17

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So DF plenty of room for some lovely new HD channels then :)

denphone 27-11-2011 16:20

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35336153)
So DF plenty of room for some lovely new HD channels then :)

Yes and hopefully these will include Sky Atlantic HD and the ITV HD channels sometime early next year.

Digital Fanatic 27-11-2011 16:28

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35336153)
So DF plenty of room for some lovely new HD channels then :)

Yeah :)

denphone 27-11-2011 16:37

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35336159)
Yeah :)

Perhaps DF can give us a prelude of what might come our way next year.:D

mhatter67 27-11-2011 16:42

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35336163)
Perhaps DF can give us a prelude of what might come our way next year.:D

Do tell DF, we promise to keep it a secret:D

Digital Fanatic 27-11-2011 16:44

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Originally Posted by mlayzell (Post 35336168)
Do tell DF, we promise to keep it a secret:D

LOL :D

You'll have to wait for VM to make announcements of that nature :)

denphone 27-11-2011 16:45

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35336170)
LOL :D

You'll have to wait for VM to make announcements of that nature :)

The masters voice has spoken.:D

Digital Fanatic 27-11-2011 16:46

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35336171)
The masters voice has spoken.:D

:D

Doz007 27-11-2011 18:16

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35336140)
On both my Tivos I had to reboot the box for the logos to appear.

I've been waiting for my TiVo to finish recording before trying a reboot but it's got the channel logos appearing correctly as you suggested. Thanks :)

muppetman11 27-11-2011 19:05

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My parents have an install for TIVO in the morning but they say theyve had no confirmation or call and no money has been added to their account , whats the best way of cofirming the appointment ?

Helix 27-11-2011 19:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336227)
My parents have an install for TIVO in the morning but they say theyve had no confirmation or call and no money has been added to their account , whats the best way of cofirming the appointment ?

You should be able to see it showing under Track Orders when you login to My Virgin Media.

muppetman11 27-11-2011 21:25

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Originally Posted by Helix (Post 35336232)
You should be able to see it showing under Track Orders when you login to My Virgin Media.

Cheers they checked however it wasn't there , a quick call confirmed it was scheduled for 8-1pm tomorrow.

fixerman 28-11-2011 00:02

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336285)
Cheers they checked however it wasn't there , a quick call confirmed it was scheduled for 8-1pm tomorrow.

At last Muppetman you will get your hands on a TiVo. I'll be you give it a good old try. Maybe you could arrange to move back home!:p:

denphone 28-11-2011 07:59

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35336353)
At last Muppetman you will get your hands on a TiVo. I'll be you give it a good old try. Maybe you could arrange to move back home!:p:

l suspect his partner would have something to say about that.:D

muppetman11 28-11-2011 13:15

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35336353)
At last Muppetman you will get your hands on a TiVo. I'll be you give it a good old try. Maybe you could arrange to move back home!:p:

They've had it installed , they said the installer was excellent and gave them a demo , all in all a credit to VM.

denphone 28-11-2011 13:18

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336502)
They've had it installed , they said the installer was excellent and gave them a demo , all in all a credit to VM.

Now all it requires is for the master to try it out and order one himself to follow his parents example.:D

Dave42 28-11-2011 13:24

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35336502)
They've had it installed , they said the installer was excellent and gave them a demo , all in all a credit to VM.

glad all went good for them MM bet you want one when you try it :)

fixerman 28-11-2011 13:41

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35336505)
Now all it requires is for the master to try it out and order one himself to follow his parents example.:D

Here! Here! Come on Muppetman, ditch the dark side:devsmoke: and come into the light!:welcome:

muppetman11 28-11-2011 17:30

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How do you get a list up of the channels being buffered ?

Stephen 28-11-2011 17:47

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Press the info button and on the left of the box scroll down to the 3x record icons, in there it will show you the other 2 channels that are bing buffered and you can actually select them to watch :)

Doz007 28-11-2011 18:37

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What's the verdict MM? :)

muppetman11 28-11-2011 19:04

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35336632)
Press the info button and on the left of the box scroll down to the 3x record icons, in there it will show you the other 2 channels that are bing buffered and you can actually select them to watch :)

Thanks Stephen , educated them on that now.

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Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35336654)
What's the verdict MM? :)

Superb mate , speed great , PQ good generally a delight to use.

jst 29-11-2011 08:21

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:)Spotify now up and running. Sounding great :D

fixerman 29-11-2011 10:56

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Originally Posted by jst (Post 35336906)
:)Spotify now up and running. Sounding great :D

This is just how an app should be! Excellent and so different to that awful You Tube app.:)

passingbat 29-11-2011 11:58

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35336959)
This is just how an app should be! Excellent

Someone has posted that there is no search or shuffle. How can that be excellent? Sounds badly sub standard to me.

Spotify may have got me to upgrade from freebie to the premium subscription, but with the lack of those features, that won't happen and I'll just keep using my Napster 5 pounds per month with 5 free tracks p/m subscription on the PC.

Digital Fanatic 29-11-2011 12:07

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337011)
Someone has posted that there is no search or shuffle. How can that be excellent? Sounds badly sub standard to me.

Spotify may have got me to upgrade from freebie to the premium subscription, but with the lack of those features, that won't happen and I'll just keep using my Napster 5 pounds per month with 5 free tracks p/m subscription on the PC.

It is a brilliant app. I think the idea is around sharing YOUR music on a external device (TiVo in this case). Can you search on iPhone/Andriod?

Stephen 29-11-2011 12:15

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35337021)
It is a brilliant app. I think the idea is around sharing YOUR music on a external device (TiVo in this case). Can you search on iPhone/Andriod?

Yes you can.

I am sure the app on TiVo will be improved over time.

Digital Fanatic 29-11-2011 12:17

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337023)
Yes you can.

I am sure the app on TiVo will be improved over time.

Thanks Stephen, so that means it can be added at some stage. I still love the app though :)

Helix 29-11-2011 12:30

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The Boxee spotify app doesn't have Shuffle or Search either - http://www.spotify.com/uk/blog/archi...market/?page=1

passingbat 29-11-2011 12:52

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35337021)
It is a brilliant app. I think the idea is around sharing YOUR music on a external device (TiVo in this case). Can you search on iPhone/Andriod?

No search and shuffle on a device meant for use as a music source in your home is plain crazy. and as Tivo is not portable, Spotify on it should be a home music service.

I find it very surprising that you're defending these lack of basic features :)

muppetman11 29-11-2011 13:28

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337023)
Yes you can.

I am sure the app on TiVo will be improved over time.

On about apps and innovation I believe VM and Sky should be applauded at how well there both improving the end user experience. I used TIVO last night and had a good play around with its many superb functions and I was blown away how good it was there were a few minor niggles but nothing major , likewise I updated the Sky Go app on my ipad to find they had added Anytime+ with On Demand movies which is a great feature with downloadable content to come all in all a big well done to both companies and keep it up.

Digital Fanatic 29-11-2011 14:40

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337031)
No search and shuffle on a device meant for use as a music source in your home is plain crazy. and as Tivo is not portable, Spotify on it should be a home music service.

I find it very surprising that you're defending these lack of basic features :)

Have you used it? :)

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35337049)
On about apps and innovation I believe VM and Sky should be applauded at how well there both improving the end user experience. I used TIVO last night and had a good play around with its many superb functions and I was blown away how good it was there were a few minor niggles but nothing major , likewise I updated the Sky Go app on my ipad to find they had added Anytime+ with On Demand movies which is a great feature with downloadable content to come all in all a big well done to both companies and keep it up.

Yes, they are both making some great products recently.

denphone 29-11-2011 15:10

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35337049)
On about apps and innovation I believe VM and Sky should be applauded at how well there both improving the end user experience. I used TIVO last night and had a good play around with its many superb functions and I was blown away how good it was there were a few minor niggles but nothing major , likewise I updated the Sky Go app on my ipad to find they had added Anytime+ with On Demand movies which is a great feature with downloadable content to come all in all a big well done to both companies and keep it up.

Yes most definitely in the last couple of years the end user experience has improved out of all recognition.

Stephen 29-11-2011 16:08

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337031)
No search and shuffle on a device meant for use as a music source in your home is plain crazy. and as Tivo is not portable, Spotify on it should be a home music service.

I find it very surprising that you're defending these lack of basic features :)

Having Spotify access on TiVo is meant to compliment accessing it on your phone or PC not to be the only place you access it. So having ready made playlists will help.

I am sure a search feature will be added to the app over time.

passingbat 29-11-2011 16:22

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337155)
Having Spotify access on TiVo is meant to compliment accessing it on your phone or PC not to be the only place you access it..

Why?

If I'm in the lounge listening to music, through good qality audio equipment, I don't want my PC on (to eliminate distracting fan noise) and I shouldn't have to use another device such as a phone, to supplement a badly designed app.

Why are VM staff defending an app that is so clearly lacking essential, routinely used features?

denphone 29-11-2011 16:32

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337162)
Why?

If I'm in the lounge listening to music, through good qality audio equipment, I don't want my PC on (to eliminate distracting fan noise) and I shouldn't have to use another device such as a phone, to supplement a badly designed app.

Why are VM staff defending an app that is so clearly lacking essential, routinely used features?

Well l am not one of the VM staff and l am very happy with the app and l am quite hard to please but perhaps the problem is your expectations of things is far too high.

Stephen 29-11-2011 16:37

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337162)
Why?

If I'm in the lounge listening to music, through good qality audio equipment, I don't want my PC on (to eliminate distracting fan noise) and I shouldn't have to use another device such as a phone, to supplement a badly designed app.

Why are VM staff defending an app that is so clearly lacking essential, routinely used features?

I am not defending the app. I am simply stating Spotify has been around for ages on other platforms and I'm happy with them. TiVo app is just a bonus extra for me as its just out and I've already been a spotify subscriber for months.

My Mac is silent and has a good speaker system attached and if listening to music would be loud enough to drown out any fan noise ;-) Also good earphones for my phone means spotify on the go. For most people they will use the PC and phone apps most of the time where as via TiVo will probably be for occasional use.

IvorC 29-11-2011 16:38

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just had a Tivo 500mb installed. Picture coming through but everything I choose to look at requires a Pin. Also channel guide is completely wrong. Is it just a matter of waiting for some form of download to complete ?

nstokes 29-11-2011 16:40

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Originally Posted by IvorC (Post 35337173)
just had a Tivo 500mb installed. Picture coming through but everything I choose to look at requires a Pin. Also channel guide is completely wrong. Is it just a matter of waiting for some form of download to complete ?

its because the EPG hasnt downloaded the data yet so the box doesnt know about the channel, leave it for about 2 hours and once epg is complete it will be all ok

zekeisaszekedoes 29-11-2011 16:47

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EPG takes at least 10-20 minutes to populate enough to go to any channel without that warning coming up, leave it for a bit and it'll be fine.

IvorC 29-11-2011 16:53

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35337178)
its because the EPG hasnt downloaded the data yet so the box doesnt know about the channel, leave it for about 2 hours and once epg is complete it will be all ok

Many Thanks for the guidance. :)

fixerman 29-11-2011 16:55

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35337162)
Why?

If I'm in the lounge listening to music, through good qality audio equipment, I don't want my PC on (to eliminate distracting fan noise) and I shouldn't have to use another device such as a phone, to supplement a badly designed app.

Why are VM staff defending an app that is so clearly lacking essential, routinely used features?

I think you are missing the point passingbat! The VM Spotify account allows you total flexibility as to how you listen to your music. I listen on my Surround Sound System, iPod, iPad and I listen in the car on my Galaxy S2.

I am, as you will see if you read my postings on the new You Tube app, extremely critical of poor technology. I believe the Spotify app is an indication as to how state of the art apps should be.:Peaceman:

PS I have no connection with VM other than as a customer!

gadge 29-11-2011 17:55

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Originally Posted by fixerman (Post 35337193)
I think you are missing the point passingbat! The VM Spotify account allows you total flexibility as to how you listen to your music. I listen on my Surround Sound System, iPod, iPad and I listen in the car on my Galaxy S2.

I am, as you will see if you read my postings on the new You Tube app, extremely critical of poor technology. I believe the Spotify app is an indication as to how state of the art apps should be.:Peaceman:

PS I have no connection with VM other than as a customer!

Well said fixerman this is where spotify comes in to its own we subbed to sonys quriocity service which was £10 a month but your only limited to sony devices now with spotify you have the freedom.Up to now we have spotify on all 3 tivos,my laptop and two blackberrys.:tu:

passingbat 29-11-2011 19:24

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35337167)
Well l am not one of the VM staff and l am very happy with the app and l am quite hard to please but perhaps the problem is your expectations of things is far too high.

I find it amazing that you think that basic things such as search and shuffle is a too high an expectation of a music service :confused:

Someone has suggested that one of the best features of music services; playing tracks of associated artists is also missing (artist radio on Spotify). This is a great way of discovering you haven't heard before.

The question is, why couldn't these basic features have been included on the Tivo app?

HD Boy 29-11-2011 19:52

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This is surely lies.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M33711

zekeisaszekedoes 29-11-2011 19:58

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Not necessarily. Look at VM's track record... some time after the Scientific Atlanta V+ HD box was rolled out the Samsung V+ HD box came along. A few months ago there was talk of a second Super Hub being made by a different supplier. Knowing VM's business practice, who is to say there won't be another VM TiVo made that improves upon the first like the Samsung V+ HD box did to the SA one?

HD Boy 29-11-2011 20:00

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35337331)
Knowing VM's business practice, who is to say there won't be another VM TiVo made that improves upon the first like the Samsung V+ HD box did to the SA one?

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ng/td-p/725339

zekeisaszekedoes 29-11-2011 20:03

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337333)

Just because the chipset is the same doesn't mean it's exactly the same product. Companies revise their products all the time, so Mark I of a product might comparitively be quite primitive as compared to the Mark V or whatever. Case in point: PS3 and then PS3 Slim... same product, just tweaked to run cooler/quieter/better.

And anyway, if you already knew of both those threads going "this is surely lies" is tantamount to spamming to get attention, which I've walked right into. :rolleyes:

HD Boy 29-11-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by zekeisaszekedoes (Post 35337335)
Just because the chipset is the same doesn't mean it's exactly the same product. Companies revise their products all the time, so Mark I of a product might comparitively be quite primitive as compared to the Mark V or whatever. Case in point: PS3 and then PS3 Slim... same product, just tweaked to run cooler/quieter/better.

That is true.

I hope this does not turn out to be true :(

Stephen 29-11-2011 20:31

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337333)

Not true in the slightest. The two TiVo boxes will perform exactly the same with the same or very similar chipsets in them.

muppetman11 29-11-2011 20:43

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337352)
Not true in the slightest. The two TiVo boxes will perform exactly the same with the same or very similar chipsets in them.

Well my parents was a CISCO box and I was really suprised by its speed , many had complained it was slow although to be fair there box had 15.2 straight off. All the menus were pretty nippy and so was the channel change , and the SD PQ impressed me, although i'd like to see the SD screens gone.

nstokes 29-11-2011 20:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35337357)
Well my parents was a CISCO box and I was really suprised by its speed , many had complained it was slow although to be fair there box had 15.2 straight off.

15.2 has increased the box speed and im glad its faster

HD Boy 29-11-2011 22:07

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the ITV red button on tivo has " I am a Celebrity Vote" LOL :D

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When this Sky Sports Red button app comes out (by the end of march)

I hope we are able to record Match choice and Champions League (2012 - 2013 season) games somehow.

Jameseh 29-11-2011 22:36

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Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337364)
When this Sky Sports Red button app comes out I hope we are able to record Match choice and Champions League games somehow.

No. The apps don't work in a way that a tuner can record it, just as you cannot record the red button on the older boxes.

Match Choice has an easy work around of just recording the showing overnight and I imagine the Champions League games are repeated as well.

mypalpop 29-11-2011 22:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337333)

Any chance you could give us a quick synopsis of what is in your links when posting?

I find it infuriating that I have to click on a link to find out what it relates to!

Pretty bad forum etiquette. :rolleyes:

HD Boy 29-11-2011 22:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35337442)
No. The apps don't work in a way that a tuner can record it, just as you cannot record the red button on the older boxes.

Bang goes that idea.

---------- Post added at 21:45 ---------- Previous post was at 21:40 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by mypalpop (Post 35337446)
Any chance you could give us a quick synopsis of what is in your links when posting?

This is likely true.
Quote:

Just to keep you updated with VM multiroom streaming. After losing an hour and three quarters of my life on the phone to VM, this is all I have found out. I was first put through to their supposed technical department. They were unaware about this feature, or should I say more to the fact that it was now available from the latest software update. I had more information on the feature than they did. After being passed from pillar to post, I was informed that this feature would be active early next year, but no specific date was available. One girl did tell me that they did not have a fault platform in place for the feature until next year.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M32951

Multiroom Streaming will likely be in one of the feature updates which will be very soon ie early in the new year.

What is a fault platform :confused:

zantarous 29-11-2011 23:00

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I imagine it is something like he fact that MRS has not gone live so the help desk can't help you with any questions as they have not been given any training, there is no info on the system and they can't raise a fault.

Its the same where I work we get calls all the time for systems that are in pilot but have not gone live so my team can't assist as we have no info and nor can we raise a ticket as the item does not exist on the system. Although i could be totally wrong.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 00:39

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Quote:

Virgin Media is also in discussion with other entertainment and content providers as part of its ongoing strategy to provide the most complete entertainment experience for its customers.
http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...-app-22fa.aspx
This likely means Virgin Media are in talks with Lovefilm and Netflix.

Jameseh 30-11-2011 01:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337502)
This likely means Virgin Media are in talks with Lovefilm and Netflix.

It is also vague enough that they could be talking to Jesus about a sitcom featuring his return to earth.

aka

Its vague to make you think of companies but people don't particularly want to hear those thoughts.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35337511)
It is also vague enough that they could be talking to Jesus about a sitcom featuring his return to earth.

LOL :D:D

gaz2810i 30-11-2011 01:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337512)
LOL :D:D

Did you miss the second part of his post :dozey:

HD Boy 30-11-2011 01:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gaz2810i (Post 35337514)
Did you miss the second part of his post :dozey:

No.

Itshim 30-11-2011 12:17

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Tried BBC I player last night. Is it "different" On TiVo to the V+. Have not used it for ages on V+ but is was painfully slow on TiVo. Reminded me of Dial up LOL

Stephen 30-11-2011 12:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35337612)
Tried BBC I player last night. Is it "different" On TiVo to the V+. Have not used it for ages on V+ but is was painfully slow on TiVo. Reminded me of Dial up LOL

On TiVo it accesses the web streams rather than using VOD servers.

Doz007 30-11-2011 12:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35337612)
Tried BBC I player last night. Is it "different" On TiVo to the V+. Have not used it for ages on V+ but is was painfully slow on TiVo. Reminded me of Dial up LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337613)
On TiVo it accesses the web streams rather than using VOD servers.

This is one point where the old V+ boxes have the upper hand in my opinion. I much preferred the sever based delivery method VM used previously.

Itshim 30-11-2011 12:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Doz007 (Post 35337615)
This is one point where the old V+ boxes have the upper hand in my opinion. I much preferred the sever based delivery method VM used previously.

One of a few if I was honest. Really want to love my TiVo. At the moment it is V++ TiVO -.

Reminders + Yes I know !!!
I player +
:D

Digital Fanatic 30-11-2011 13:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35337612)
Tried BBC I player last night. Is it "different" On TiVo to the V+. Have not used it for ages on V+ but is was painfully slow on TiVo. Reminded me of Dial up LOL

TiVo has the full BBC iPlayer content that is on at the same time as the web. It doesn't have to wait for VM to upload to their VOD servers.

Lew 30-11-2011 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 35337612)
Tried BBC I player last night. Is it "different" On TiVo to the V+. Have not used it for ages on V+ but is was painfully slow on TiVo. Reminded me of Dial up LOL

That's not normal behaviour, btw. For some reason the TiVo iPlayer app was unusually slow last night.

aldo 30-11-2011 13:48

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interesting on the iplayer. so as its the web version you get more content quicker (a plus) but being web based you don't have the same control of being able to fast forward etc which is annoying unless I'm missing something!

Digital Fanatic 30-11-2011 13:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aldo (Post 35337646)
interesting on the iplayer. so as its the web version you get more content quicker (a plus) but being web based you don't have the same control of being able to fast forward etc which is annoying unless I'm missing something!

You can fast forward. :) Pressing the >> jumps to 1 min intervals

BenMcr 30-11-2011 14:00

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You can also control the time slider using the direction pad - the longer you hold down left or right the quicker it skips

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:19

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I was told that BBC red button and ITV red button is coming before the end of the year and more red button services early 2012 .

I was told all this by the Virgin Media Twitter team

http://twitter.com/#!/buddieboy2011

Can they launch during december ?

This Virgin Media staff member thinks so.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M31888

zekeisaszekedoes 30-11-2011 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lew (Post 35337639)
That's not normal behaviour, btw. For some reason the TiVo iPlayer app was unusually slow last night.

I had that too, it was really laggy on HD streams. There were some On Demand problems too... bit of a mess all round, really.

With Fast Forward on the iPlayer app, if you press slowly you get 1 minute skips, pressing fast can give 5-10 minute skips. Annoyingly, if you press |<- it doesn't skip back a few seconds it goes right back to the start of the stream!

Helix 30-11-2011 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337670)

This Virgin Media staff member thinks so.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M31888

I wouldn't take that post as him knowing when the red button will launch, he is just making a statement that it is possible from a Technical point of view.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:23

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The Virgin Media twitter team said this
Quote:

@buddieboy2011 It's not wrong as it says we're adding new Red Button services before the end of the year (BBC & ITV) with more early 2012.
Is this true ? who knows.

Just look what happened with the iOS App.

Stephen 30-11-2011 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337675)
The Virgin Media twitter team said this

Is this true ? who knows.

Just look what happened with the iOS App.

When quoting its helpful to provide a link to the original post!

Also don't you get bored with repeating yourself constantly?

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337678)
When quoting its helpful to provide a link to the original post!

Also don't you get bored with repeating yourself constantly?

I did above on my first post on this page.

muppetman11 30-11-2011 14:36

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What is it with YouTube and VM when I had there 30mb BB I always had buffering issues and I noticed it a few times on my parents TIVO box which i understand has its own dedicated modem.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35337682)
What is it with YouTube and VM when I had there 30mb BB I always had buffering issues and I noticed it a few times on my parents TIVO box which i understand has its own dedicated modem.

SD and HD Videos play fine on my TiVo box.

I do get occasionally buffering issues on youtube when on my PC.

ShaneC 30-11-2011 14:43

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I'm pretty disappointed with the new Youtube app. You don't seem to be able to login now so there are no playlists or favourites. The quality is better but this means some videos now have buffering issues.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaneC (Post 35337686)
I'm pretty disappointed with the new Youtube app. You don't seem to be able to login now so there are no playlists or favourites.

Yet.


The login option on the new version is still under discussion.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M31837

Gavin-D 30-11-2011 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337670)
I was told that BBC red button and ITV red button is coming before the end of the year and more red button services early 2012 .

I was told all this by the Virgin Media Twitter team

http://twitter.com/#!/buddieboy2011

Can they launch during december ?

This Virgin Media staff member thinks so.
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...ht/true#M31888

You never learn do you. All you seem to post is Twitter this and Twitter that wait for OFFICAL announcements

:rolleyes:

HD Boy 30-11-2011 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35337688)
You never learn do you. All you seem to post is Twitter this and Twitter that wait for OFFICAL announcements

:rolleyes:

I thought the iOS app was part of the update going by the press release and look what happened there.

spiderplant 30-11-2011 15:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337678)
Also don't you get bored with repeating yourself constantly?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337680)
I did above on my first post on this page.

Then stop it! :D

Stephen 30-11-2011 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HD Boy (Post 35337691)
I thought the iOS app was part of the update going by the press release and look what happened there.

No, if you read it correctly all it stated was the app would be available soon after the update launched. The update enables support for the iOS app and other network features.

zekeisaszekedoes 30-11-2011 15:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35337717)
Then stop it! :D

Maybe one of the mods could change his custom title to Spammy McSpamalot so new members know what to expect from his oh-so-insightful posts. :D

Itshim 30-11-2011 17:29

Re: General TiVo Discussion Part 2
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aldo (Post 35337646)
interesting on the iplayer. so as its the web version you get more content quicker (a plus) but being web based you don't have the same control of being able to fast forward etc which is annoying unless I'm missing something!

quicker content you must be joking it is o so slow. & lacks any useful control.:(
If I need to use the I player Ill been using the V+. Mind you there is always the Wii:confused:

zekeisaszekedoes 30-11-2011 19:24

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My personal favourite iPlayer client is the one made for XBMC. Fast, HD-capable, generally stable as long as you choose the correct server.

HD Boy 30-11-2011 20:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35337723)
No, if you read it correctly all it stated was the app would be available soon after the update launched.

Really ?

Quote:

The feature will be made available as part of the first major software update for the system and is designed to build on the user experience of the award-winning service. Virgin Media plans to roll-out the software update, which will feature the companion app as well as other new features to be announced, in the coming months.
http://mediacentre.virginmedia.com/S...vice-21aa.aspx

That is false or it is poorly worded.


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