Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

just informed more people of whats going on, on different forums none IT related places of the e-petition and they started to sign it also links to all the info they need to make a informed choice.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

should that not be

. Web Wise?
.. Web Spies
... BT Lies

Peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

found it, back on page 489..theres more somewhere.




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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Just looking at site stats for http://www.DoNotTrustWebwise.org.

Browser Summary section...

1. Firefox, 2. IE... down in 15th place "Kent Ertugrul is a C*nt".

LMAO

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hey! What a good idea: Added 'Stop Phorm/Webwise Spyware' to my user agent string.

Firefox users, do type: about:config in the address bar and search for 'agent'.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Or, for Firefox users, install the User Agent Switcher add-on

http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/

and you can have multiple UA strings to choose from...

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

https://nodpi.org/events/

Can people let me know if they think I need to add more or come up with any suggestions for changes please.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

The BT guy I'm working with hasn't got it, but that's not to say such a survey didn't got out. He says many people feel strongly internally about Phorm so I'm guessing if such an email exists then someone would leak it at some point.

Anyone offering?!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Presumably this is from VM? via email?
Is it for selected customers as I haven't received anything.

What is with this government? Are they never satisfied?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

intersting comment, i assume the strong feelings are agianst, but for what reason,

1:-see bits of the network being outsource to trusted partners?

2:-put under pressure to provide systems internally that provide income like phorm

3:- being told by trusted partners how to configure the network for them and lower security

peter

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Brown is paranoid

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I'll ask but I'm almost sure it's an idealistic view as a networks expert like myself that this is such a cludge, at the edge of what the protocols allow (HTTP, cookies), filthy implementation (redirects), additional bottlenecks and points of failure to the network.

It would be interested to know how less technical people in BT feel about it!

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

The page will also end up in lots of strange places. Many Windows applications that embed Internet Explorer to fetch and render HTML content will end up showing the interstitial page. This will happen with Windows Media Player. It could even happen during an attempt to acquire DRM rights. The following are the relevant headers from a sequence of such HTTP requests. Long argument lists have been replaced with an asterisk.

GET /15478/live/reflector:48642.asx?bkup=48685 HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Windows-Media-Player/11.0.5721.5145
Host: mfile.akamai.com

This is ok. It's a different user agent.

POST /services/WMLicense?* HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Windows-Media-DRM/11.0.5721.5145
Host: man.channel4.com

This is ok. It's both a different user agent and a POST.

POST /services/WMLicense?* HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Host: man.channel4.com

This is ok. It's a POST.

GET /player/console/drmConsole.html?* HTTP/1.1
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1)
Host: geo.channel4.com

This request might be replaced by the interstitial notice page. While Phorm could code their layer-seven switches to avoid certain instances of this and the sort of problem suggested by oblonsky, there is no general solution. It’s as intractable as avoiding all web-based email.


As well as the interstitial page having the potential to cause problems, the redirection process needed to copy a Webwise UID cookie into other websites’ domains causes a fundamental change in the nature of web browsing. The website that a person is actively trying to reach should be a first-party website, with first-party cookies. After the redirections, it becomes a third-party website, with third-party cookies that may get blocked.

I won’t argue that, on many occasions, Webwise’s trickery will pass off without hitch. However, even with a 99.9% success rate, every one million page redirections would equal one thousand problems.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Hi All, I received the e-mail from Virgin Media (below) a couple of days ago ref. a query about my bill, unfortunately my query was not about my bill, it was about a TV "Smart Card"! However I did take part in the survey and took the opportunity to make them aware of my feelings towards Phorm!

Dave.



Hi, xxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks for getting in touch with our team recently about the query you had with your Virgin Media bill. We hope that things are now sorted out for you.

In fact, that's what we're writing about. At Virgin Media, we want to make sure we give you the best customer service out there. So we'd really like to find out how things went for you when we dealt with your bill query.

We've put together a few quick questions about how things went, and we'd really appreciate it if you'd take the time to let us know your thoughts. It shouldn't take longer than around one minute to complete.

By finding out exactly how things went for you, we'll be able to understand the things we're getting right, and if there's anything you'd like us to do better. And we promise to use your feedback to make improvements where we can.

If you'd like to take part in our survey, just click the web address below. Or you can simply cut and paste the entire web address into the web address box of your internet browser.


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Thanks very much in advance for your help.

Yours sincerely,

The whole team at Virgin Media

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

And the web address is?