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Damien 24-10-2025 10:26

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
They change headlines a lot.

Reform did well relative to the last election, but will be disappointed they've lost a seat they were favourites in. I think they might suffer from what Corbyn's Labour did in that they were able to engage a lot of voters, but equally managed to motivate a lot of voters to come out against them.

With Reform and Farage seen as a realistic prospect, we might find voters voting tactually to keep them out. It's what has happened here in this one seat.

Carth 24-10-2025 11:29

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205211)
The 'people' haven't got a good track record. Politicians can't always be blamed. They are making a massive mistake again if they're taken in by Farage, the man that sold them Brexit.

The 'people' have a voice, it's the politicians that have a poor track record. They also have a vote, and if politicians etc only listen to the 'advisor' in their earhole, they won't hear the whispers blowing in from the street.

What follows is the people not voting for someone because they don't seem to listen . . . or as now seems regular, not voting at all.

Sephiroth 24-10-2025 11:42

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36205212)
I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.

Could you substantiate your basis for hatred in Court? And if not in Court, then here in the forum?


Pierre 24-10-2025 12:10

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36205212)
I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.

LOL, just like every politician then.

papa smurf 24-10-2025 12:26

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36205222)
LOL, just like every politician then.

no no no you can't include Angela Rayner in that, she's totally honest :erm:

Carth 24-10-2025 13:06

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Was it Billy Connolly that once said something like "anyone who thinks of becoming a Politician should immediately be barred from becoming one" . . . probably stolen from elsewhere but that's the one I sort of remember

OLD BOY 24-10-2025 16:01

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36205212)
I really hate Farage. I don't think he gives a stuff about anything but what he can get out of the public purse for his own back pocket. He's on the make.

Is that based on any real evidence, Maggy, or just the opinion you have formed from all the naysayers?

Paul 24-10-2025 16:11

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36205214)
I still support Brexit but that is another topic.
More relevant here is Plaid beat Reform in Caerphilly.

Interestingly the Google search "Plaid Cymru beat reform" has two headlines from BBC

One is an article, one is a "live" report ? You often get this.

Sephiroth 24-10-2025 16:25

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Farage hasn't done much wrong. Some stuff, yes. Other stuff. no.

1. He proposed leaving the EU and 17 million people decided he was right.

2. The Tory government screwed Brexit up - wrong decisions, wrong approach.

3. Labour is doing even worse by appeasing the EU who know we are weak.

4. Farage poses an alternative but he has a duty to offer doable policies.

5. Farage has a warning in the Caerphilly by-election. He needs realistic policies.

Farage should not be singled out for hatred.


Paul 24-10-2025 16:27

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36205251)
Farage should not be singled out for hatred.

Why not ?

Hugh 24-10-2025 16:29

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…

papa smurf 24-10-2025 16:48

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36205255)
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…

At least they didn't lose their deposit in the welsh election

Mr K 24-10-2025 16:50

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36205255)
The Reform UK Party is Farage, just like The Brexit Party and UKIP were before that - everyone else are just hangers-on, with no ability to direct or change things…

Like Kent CC? A forewarning of what they'd be like running the country. They do seem to attract the completely talentless.

papa smurf 24-10-2025 16:52

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36205265)
Like Kent CC? A forewarning of what they'd be like running the country. They do seem to attract the completely talentless.

that's labours job init

Sephiroth 24-10-2025 17:17

Re: Reform UK's chronicles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36205253)
Why not ?

On a matter of principal. Hate is too strong a word for that type of person - some might agree with me.


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