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1andrew1 29-09-2023 13:16
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36160892)
The only thing dying here is any sense of irony.
I think Seph is pitching for a presenter's role at GB News. :D

The presenter opportunities are coming fast and furious at GB News! Calvin Robinson says he has now been suspended by the channel, perhaps for showing solidarity with Comrade Wootton?
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Robinson had said he would not appear on Wootton's show without him, saying: "Our bosses are scared. Afraid of Ofcom, afraid of the woke mob"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-66958077

Hugh 29-09-2023 13:18
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36160892)
The only thing dying here is any sense of irony.
To repeat something I posted earlier this month (when Murdoch railed against the "elites" in his "resignation" letter).

"Irony has jumped the tracks, careened down the embankment, crashed through a circus, drove over a mink farm, and finally plowed into a protected wetland where it rolled over, leaking oil, and exploded, raining down smoking clown shrapnel and flaming weasels over the countryside.*

*@stonekettle

Sephiroth 29-09-2023 14:11
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36160890)
When a TV channel hires senior members of the ruling political party to interview its own ministers in place of independent professional journalists, democracy is dying. The UK needs an independent media to hold its politicians to account, not the governing party interviewing itself.

I don’t see it like that. Freedom of expression is a self defining thing.

To your point, what independent media would that be? In the case of GB News, its enemies would in any case bombard OFCOM with complaints. The playing field is in sufficiently level.

I’m no fan of the government but I’d like to see some judicial fairness here.

Hugh 29-09-2023 14:17
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36160905)

I don’t see it like that. [b]Freedom of expression is a self defining thing.[‘b]

To your point, what independent media would that be? In the case of GB News, its enemies would in any case bombard OFCOM with complaints. The playing field is in sufficiently level.

I’m no fan of the government but I’d like to see some judicial fairness here.
And sometimes it’s defined by the Deputy Chairman of the ruling Political Party being paid £100,000 a year for 8 hours work per week…

Chris 29-09-2023 14:20
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36160905)

I don’t see it like that. Freedom of expression is a self defining thing.

To your point, what independent media would that be? In the case of GB News, its enemies would in any case bombard OFCOM with complaints. The playing field is in sufficiently level.

I’m no fan of the government but I’d like to see some judicial fairness here.
Freedom of expression on broadcast TV and Radio is and always has been regulated, particularly with regards to impartiality. From the outset our sovereign parliament has recognised the danger inherent in the unregulated broadcast of political messaging, given its ability to reach so many so quickly, in addition to its high access costs which tend to make it anything but a level playing field.

Nothing has changed or died in that regard, except that GBN has been trying to push the boundaries of acceptable conduct and has rightly been found wanting.

Itshim 29-09-2023 14:33
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36160909)
Freedom of expression on broadcast TV and Radio is and always has been regulated, particularly with regards to impartiality. From the outset our sovereign parliament has recognised the danger inherent in the unregulated broadcast of political messaging, given its ability to reach so many so quickly, in addition to its high access costs which tend to make it anything but a level playing field.

Nothing has changed or died in that regard, except that GBN has been trying to push the boundaries of acceptable conduct and has rightly been found wanting.
Or put another way you can say what you like as long as we like it :erm:

Chris 29-09-2023 14:44
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36160910)
Or put another way you can say what you like as long as we like it :erm:
Er, no, that’s nothing like another way of describing impartiality.

ianch99 29-09-2023 15:24
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36160886)

I know that Ian is a rabid anti-Tory leftie who revels in awkwardness for GB News
You like me really :D

1andrew1 29-09-2023 15:50
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36160905)

I don’t see it like that. Freedom of expression is a self defining thing.

To your point, what independent media would that be? In the case of GB News, its enemies would in any case bombard OFCOM with complaints. The playing field is in sufficiently level.

I’m no fan of the government but I’d like to see some judicial fairness here.
I said independent professional journalists. They can be right-wing journalists like Andrew Neill but they need to be independent by not being an MP nor holding a position of power in a political party.

I'm not sure that because GB News oversteps the boundaries quite a lot (qv Fox and Wootton recently) and therefore attracts complaints, we have to compensate for that incompetence by allowing politicians of one party to interview one another to provide a level playing field of judicial fairness.

Sephiroth 29-09-2023 15:56
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36160914)
You like me really :D
Of course.

Hugh 29-09-2023 23:17
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Lozza’s taking it well…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...7&d=1696025757

Mick 30-09-2023 04:32
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I see the usual whinging members of this channel, still whining about it, it’s easy, don’t watch it.

It seems it was okay on Piers Morgan’s show for a guest to deride Sam Smith, would you want to shag that, crickets from you lot.

And those of you peddling mistruths on viewing figures, it regular beats Sky News and BBC News 24 and Talk TV combined, of course all the other media outlets, calling for its shutdown, it’s because GBN are the competition.

While we are here, there had been far worse things said, Jo Brand said the milk thrown on Farage should have been acid, all the complaints to Ofcom, they didn’t find fault, the BBC hid the antics of Jimmy Saville for decades, it was a dirty little secret, so while you’re snivelling snide remarks about a startup station that is doing well audience wise, fastest online growing brand, remember none of the others are perfect, so why shouldn’t they be shut down?

jfman 30-09-2023 07:06
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36160966)
I see the usual whinging members of this channel, still whining about it, it’s easy, don’t watch it.

It seems it was okay on Piers Morgan’s show for a guest to deride Sam Smith, would you want to shag that, crickets from you lot.

And those of you peddling mistruths on viewing figures, it regular beats Sky News and BBC News 24 and Talk TV combined, of course all the other media outlets, calling for its shutdown, it’s because GBN are the competition.

While we are here, there had been far worse things said, Jo Brand said the milk thrown on Farage should have been acid, all the complaints to Ofcom, they didn’t find fault, the BBC hid the antics of Jimmy Saville for decades, it was a dirty little secret, so while you’re snivelling snide remarks about a startup station that is doing well audience wise, fastest online growing brand, remember none of the others are perfect, so why shouldn’t they be shut down?
Is the difference not that Jo Brand is a professional comedian, making statements for entertainment purposes, on a recognised comedy show?

If GB News is a serious news channel (not a concession I’d make but I’ll pretend for once) surely they should broadcast news and not who Lawrence Fox would (or would not) shag?

If only GB News were broadcasting the news rather than generating it switching off would be an answer.

ianch99 30-09-2023 09:15
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36160967)
Is the difference not that Jo Brand is a professional comedian, making statements for entertainment purposes, on a recognised comedy show?

If GB News is a serious news channel (not a concession I’d make but I’ll pretend for once) surely they should broadcast news and not who Lawrence Fox would (or would not) shag?

If only GB News were broadcasting the news rather than generating it switching off would be an answer.
Given it is the Propaganda wing of the Tory Party, it has no credibility being an objective News channel

Mick 30-09-2023 11:31
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And the pathetic Channel 4, Guardian are hard left Labour pieces & nut jobs. Do you actually have a point Ian, or do you just enjoy chatting lefty shitty soundbites as usual? :zzz:

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36160967)
Is the difference not that Jo Brand is a professional comedian, making statements for entertainment purposes, on a recognised comedy show?

If GB News is a serious news channel (not a concession I’d make but I’ll pretend for once) surely they should broadcast news and not who Lawrence Fox would (or would not) shag?

If only GB News were broadcasting the news rather than generating it switching off would be an answer.
Correction, she WAS a comedian. She’s now a divisive pathetic entity & it’s sad because I did find her funny but she crossed a line.

So you condone violence - got it.


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