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Osem	27-02-2017 11:00

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I love the way Corbyn grudgingly accepts some 'responsibility' for the Copeland failure. I'm wondering in what way he's actually done that however. His concept of carrying the can seems to be staying in office. I wonder how many times over the years he's called for opponents to resign over far less?

Osem	03-03-2017 22:51

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I wonder if Comrade Corbyn will accept any 'responsibility' for this...

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Labour has lost nearly 26,000 members since last summer, according to leaked data.

The apparent shedding of card-carrying supporters has led one former chairman of the Parliamentary Labour Party (PLP) to warn the "tide is turning".

More than three-quarters of those to leave the party last year had joined after the 2015 general election, a period that saw membership grow rapidly under Jeremy Corbyn's leadership.

Figures seen by The Times showed the number of resignations in 2016 was more than the previous six years combined, while more than 15,465 have left since mid-December.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...e-summer-amid/

Osem	20-03-2017 18:57

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Labour's deputy leader says left-wing supporters of Jeremy Corbyn are involved in a plot which could destroy the party as an electoral force.
Tom Watson was reacting to claims that the grassroots Momentum group - which helped make Mr Corbyn leader - is hoping to get financial support from Britain's largest trade union, Unite.
Momentum's Jon Lansman was reportedly taped saying that if Len McCluskey was re-elected as Unite general secretary, the union would affiliate to his group rather than just to Labour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39325559

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In the recordings, which were revealed by The Observer newspaper, Mr Lansman says: "Assuming that Len McCluskey wins the general secretaryship, which I think he will, Unite will affiliate to Momentum and will fully participate in Momentum, as will the CWU."
He went on to tell activists it was "absolutely crucial" that they secured a change to the party's rules to ensure that whenever Mr Corbyn stands down, they are able to get a candidate on to the ballot paper to succeed him.

Osem	05-04-2017 12:39

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Meanwhile Corbyn's cronies have their work cut out co-existing let alone being in any sense a credible opposition to HMG.

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Labour's deputy leader Tom Watson says he finds it "incomprehensible" that Ken Livingstone was not expelled from the party over comments about Hitler.
He said the ex-London mayor's behaviour "discredits the party I love".
Mr Livingstone was suspended by Labour for two years on Tuesday for comments he made about Adolf Hitler and Zionism.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39499640

It reminds me of way back when the Tories had descended into sleaze and in-fighting with the result that they were out of office for 13 years while Bliar and Brown were virtually unchallenged by them. I can't recall the last serious interview I saw with the so called 'Leader of the Opposition' (an oxymoron in every sense). He much prefers chatting to roomfulls of activists who like what he has to say than expose himself to serious questioning. Corbyn's doing for Labour what Sam Allardyce did for England and Arthur Scargill did for the unions.

TheDaddy

20-02-2019 20:52

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Seeing as the other Corbyn hate thread has been shut, thought I'd point out Derek Hatton was readmitted to the party 2 days ago 30 years after being booted out, he's just been suspended for making anti Israel comments...

heero_yuy

29-03-2019 09:32

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First Labour anti-semite arrests:

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Quote from the Sun:

A former Labour council candidate is among three people nicked by cops probing anti-Semitism claims.

They are thought to be the first arrests linked to the storm engulfing Jeremy Corbyn’s party.

Roy Smart and two other former Labour members were quizzed over claims they published or produced race hate material.

Last year it was reported Smart shared a Facebook post asking *people to “question the Holocaust”.

Smart, 50, was selected to stand in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, for last year’s local elections but was axed as a candidate following anti-Semitism allegations.

1andrew1

28-05-2019 12:32

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Equality watchdog launches Labour anti-Semitism probe

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The Equality and Human Rights Commission has launched a formal investigation into the Labour Party over allegations of anti-Semitism.
The watchdog told the party in March it had received a number of complaints and was considering its next steps.
It will now formally look into whether Labour has "unlawfully discriminated against, harassed or victimised people because they are Jewish".
The party said it would co-operate fully with the investigation.
But its spokesman said Labour "rejects any suggestion that the party does not handle ant-Semitism complaints fairly and robustly, or that the party has acted unlawfully".
The party has been plagued by accusations of anti-Semitism since mid-2016.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48433964

denphone

28-05-2019 12:37

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Good as anti-Semitism or any sort of prejudice has no part to play in any political party and normal society and should be rooted out.

Mr K	28-05-2019 15:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35996756)

Good as anti-Semitism or any sort of prejudice has no part to play in any political party and normal society and should be rooted out.

Absolutely, as long as all prejudice is rooted out, no matter who it is against or where it has come from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48434202

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The Muslim Council of Britain has formally asked the UK's human rights watchdog to investigate accusations of Islamophobia in the Conservative Party.

In a letter to the Equalities and Human Rights Commission, the MCB said a problem "runs deep into the party".

The EHRC said in response that it was considering complaints about the party in line with its "usual processes".

In March, party deputy chairman James Cleverly insisted "immediate action" was taken after any racism claims.

The MCB is an umbrella organisation of various UK Muslim bodies, including mosques, schools, and charitable associations. It has called repeatedly for an independent investigation into discrimination claims.

Now, in its letter filing a formal complaint to the EHRC, it accused the Conservatives of not taking action against Islamophobia shown by Tory MPs, and tolerating discrimination towards party members.

The MCB said there was "sufficient evidence" to suggest the party may have breached anti-discrimination law, and accused it of showing a "callous attitude to complaints".

denphone

28-05-2019 15:27

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35996771)

Absolutely, as long as all prejudice is rooted out, no matter who it is against or where it has come from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48434202

Exactly as its not just in one party but in many sadly and prejudice also goes right across all groups and classes in society.

Chris

28-05-2019 17:36

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35996771)

Absolutely, as long as all prejudice is rooted out, no matter who it is against or where it has come from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48434202

Quite right, although there’s something suspiciously squirrel about the timing of this complaint.

Pierre

28-05-2019 19:51

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35996771)

Absolutely, as long as all prejudice is rooted out, no matter who it is against or where it has come from.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48434202

Excellent use of “whataboutism”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Carry on.

Mr K	28-05-2019 20:13

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35996858)

Excellent use of “whataboutism”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Carry on.

Excellent use of one-eyedness, carry on.....
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...n/one-eyedness

Damien

28-05-2019 20:19

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35996808)

Quite right, although there’s something suspiciously squirrel about the timing of this complaint.

I believe the EHRC had already received referrals about Islamophobia in the Tory Party anyway.

Pierre

28-05-2019 20:21

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35996863)

Excellent use of one-eyedness, carry on.....
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/de...n/one-eyedness

You’re not very good at this.

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