Cable Forum

Cable Forum (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/index.php)
-   Current Affairs (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   Child grooming gang found guilty (https://www.cableforum.uk/board/showthread.php?t=33687539)

denphone 22-10-2018 11:04

Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967405)
Except that it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with appalling criminal behaviour.

Correct..

Pierre 22-10-2018 11:35

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967198)
A member of their own community has come out in a BBC interview and stated that he thinks it is a particular problem with Pakistani men because of their attitudes towards women.

Same particular problem that Catholic Priests have/had with their attitudes to young boys?

RichardCoulter 22-10-2018 16:46

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967427)
Same particular problem that Catholic Priests have/had with their attitudes to young boys?

No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.

---------- Post added at 16:46 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967405)
Except that it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with appalling criminal behaviour.

Absolutely, but since the measures put in place after the Stephen Lawrence enquiry, the police are reluctant to do anything that could be construed as racism. The same goes for the staff of local authorities, but that's more to do with ultra PC management.

Thankfully, these issues have now been recognised and measures are to be put in place to prevent a repetition (unless it was just lip service for the cameras).

OLD BOY 22-10-2018 18:51

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967455)
No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.

---------- Post added at 16:46 ---------- Previous post was at 16:42 ----------



Absolutely, but since the measures put in place after the Stephen Lawrence enquiry, the police are reluctant to do anything that could be construed as racism. The same goes for the staff of local authorities, but that's more to do with ultra PC management.

Thankfully, these issues have now been recognised and measures are to be put in place to prevent a repetition (unless it was just lip service for the cameras).

The police should enforce, not ignore the law. The issue was nothing whatsoever to do with racism.

I thought everyone was supposed to be equal under the law? The 'establishment elite' appears to have done much in recent years to erode that principle. Unless this is corrected soon, this will end up with a backlash by the majority who believe that the law is not protecting them.

Pierre 22-10-2018 19:04

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967455)
No, I think he meant beliefs of superiority towards women.

Do hear that flying over your head? It was my point.

RichardCoulter 22-10-2018 19:09

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35967477)
The police should enforce, not ignore the law. The issue was nothing whatsoever to do with racism.

I thought everyone was supposed to be equal under the law? The 'establishment elite' appears to have done much in recent years to erode that principle. Unless this is corrected soon, this will end up with a backlash by the majority who believe that the law is not protecting them.

Totally agree. Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law, as has clearly been the case due to public employees being too afraid to challenge and follow up complaints about people of colour.

OLD BOY 22-10-2018 19:22

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967488)
Totally agree. Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law, as has clearly been the case due to public employees being too afraid to challenge and follow up complaints about people of colour.

Which is exactly what happens when you legislate to give legal rights only to minorities.

The law should give rights of fair treatment to the whole population. That would help to remove the confusion.

Pierre 22-10-2018 20:55

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967488)
Racial equality should not mean that Pakistanis get a free pass to break the law.

I understood that the vast majority were British.

Carth 23-10-2018 11:07

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967512)
I understood that the vast majority were British.

Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian

Mr K 23-10-2018 11:08

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35967599)
Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian

Or Yorkshire/Welsh and sunburnt ;)

Carth 23-10-2018 11:27

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35967600)
Or Yorkshire/Welsh and sunburnt ;)


Why did an image of Charlie Williams suddenly pop into my head? ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WucumXbAsk

He was brilliant :D

Angua 23-10-2018 16:11

Re: Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35967599)
Most people here are British, but it goes deeper than that:

White or White British
Black or Black British:
Asian or Asian British: Indian
Asian or Asian British: Pakistani
Asian or Asian British: Bangladeshi
Asian or Asian British: Chinese
Asian or Asian British: Other Asian

And there are all the variations on Black and Mixed.

Still all human beings.

richard s 23-10-2018 20:04

Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
 
But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).

Pierre 23-10-2018 21:03

Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35967683)
But are there any Celtic British (natives) left.


Do not like it when the black Americans call their selves African Americans (just call your selves American).

Me, my father/ grandfather were Scottish, great grandfather was Irish.

I’m 1st generation English. I don’t consider myself Scottish or Irish and have no affinity to either.

OLD BOY 24-10-2018 09:09

Re: Child grooming gang found guilty
 
All this emphasis on background, ethnic origin and colour just creases me up! For heaven's sake, we are all people, so what difference does it make? The more we play it up, the more the racists and other extremists grab hold of it as the spark for another campaign of intimidation and violence.

The sooner this stops being an issue and we can all treat each other according to our behaviour, the better.


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:13.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum