Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35749077)

And I disagree with pretty much all that you said here

I fail to see how you have concluded that these negotiations take a long time, if any negotiation are even taken place, I don't think it well known because negotiations take as long or as short as possible depending on co operation of side. Based on official releases sky reckon they gave a "fair" price , VM thinks not (and neither does any other provider). In that scenario I reckon talks are had but certainly not involving SA.

I fail to see what this channel sky bravo anything to do with this; the missing HD channels that have arrived or about to arrive have demonstrated agreements can be made without SA let alone a mystery non existent channel that was Rumoured to be starting, I fail to see that's it's non agreement with VM would fail to launch, ITV encore can without VM why not this bravo

I fail to see how NowTV is as you describe a last ditch attempt; TV over Internet is very much the future and sky is using this as a method to ensure its presence in this new(ish) market in light of new competition against its traditional model. Now offers a new market audience who don't wish to take expensive contracts.

i give you the fact that no one knows, and maybe deals with missing HD might see a new light of co operation but unless advertisers or regulation force sky hand to ensure bigger coverage or HBO requires it they ain't going to budge soon on this

Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35748769)

I'm quite capable of forming an opinion on the poor management of the BBC and the tv tax without relying on comment from the Sun, etc, thank you very much.

You only have to look at the channel 4 stable to see how public service television can be run by a public organisation but be self-funding.

Re: Maggie's comment I suggest the spirit of goodwill might have lasted longer if people hadn't been told off for wishing each other a Merry Christmas!

@Old Boy, I applaud your optimism, but it isn't going to happen!

Originally Posted by jj2448jg (Post 35749084)

How is ITV encore doing at the moment? Haven't heard much surrounding it, has it got a release date for Virgin Media in 2015?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35749104)

There is no release date currently.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35749077)

I fail to see how NowTV is as you describe a last ditch attempt; TV over Internet is very much the future and sky is using this as a method to ensure its presence in this new(ish) market in light of new competition against its traditional model. Now offers a new market audience who don't wish to take expensive contracts.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35749077)

Now TV offers a new market audience who don't wish to take expensive contracts.

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35749127)

Spot on.

And Now TV is probably attracting some VM TV customers who really want to see HBO content and are prepared to shell out a bit more money to watch it.

I can see no real advantage for Sky to add Atlantic to VM. Well, unless the upcoming Premiership bid leaves them strapped for cash :D

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And also for Cord Cutters who want to choose the TV content that they pay for, in a more selective way.

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 35749132)

With all the buffering problems that go with Now TV. I all but unwatchable and that's with 152mb connection

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35749135)

No buffering at all on my 80mb plusnet connection although i suffered buffering when i was with VMs 100mb service which makes me wonder if VM are throttling still.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35749135)

No buffering at all on my 80mb plusnet connection although i suffered buffering when i was with VMs 100mb service which makes me wonder if VM are throttling still.

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35749139)

Sorry for my ignorance but what is `throttling`? Incidently I have buffering issues more often now I`m with virgin and their `superfast` broadband which I didn`t get when I was with Sky broadband. Makes you think,doesn`t it?

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 35749132)

With all the buffering problems that go with Now TV. I all but unwatchable and that's with 152mb connection

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 35749132)

With all the buffering problems that go with Now TV. I all but unwatchable and that's with 152mb connection

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35749143)

Throttling just means slowing down the speeds. VM say they don't throttle but it's bull they do throttle and i've caught them out on more than one occasion.