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1andrew1 01-08-2015 10:04
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35791506)
Well with the ECL , EL , FA Cup and several other big leagues plus some PL they are becoming a reasonable priced alternative to Sky Sports pricey premium packages.
Very good point. A couple of other Saturday morning points:
I do laugh when I see people complaining that the now have to pay two providers to see "all the football" by which they mean the Premier League. For starters, most Sky Sports subscribers can only watch a fraction of the matches it broadcasts as there just isn't time. Secondly, in the glory days they hark back to, there were far fewer Premier League matches being shown. Up until 2001, just 60 matches were being shown by Sky. In 2001, that figure rose to 110 matches.
There are now some 168 matches being shown and viewers have the choice of taking 42 matches from BT and 126 matches from Sky.
I also laugh when I see people complaining about the regulators requiring matches to be sold to two broadcasters. It is the regulators that did not allow BT to enter the pay TV market until 2001 which it did five years later. If BT had not been banned from providing pay TV services by the regulators, it may well have been bidding for Premier League rights back in the 90s! So I argue that having just one bidder for Premier League rights was in fact a temporary situation created by the regulators.

alwaysabear 01-08-2015 10:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35791488)
According to the Daily Mail, BT Sport has won the La Liga rights. (scroll down)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...emi-final.html
Sky appear to have bitten off more than they can chew this time. BT must be a real concern for them, as previous competitors just gave up when they realised how much money they would have to invest.

vincerooney 01-08-2015 10:48
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hmm i hope it doesnt mean my precious bundesliga is not shown on bt if some of the matches clash with yawnliga. la liga, french ligue and serie a are usually all on at the same time and bt only have 4 channels and they cant all show football id imagine...

any other football league rights up this season??

denphone 01-08-2015 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35791488)
According to the Daily Mail, BT Sport has won the La Liga rights. (scroll down)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cri...emi-final.html
And this seems to confirm it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ky-Sports.html


Quote:
In what would be the biggest shock in sports broadcasting since it blew Sky out of the water to land the Champions League, BT was poised to freeze the latter out of showing Real Madrid and Barcelona for the next three years.
Quote:
BT already has Germany’s Bundesliga, Italy’s Serie A, France’s Ligue 1 and Portugal’s Primeira Liga and taking their Spanish equivalent in the coming weeks would be a major coup, calling into question Sky’s decision last year to launch a seventh dedicated sports channel in Sky Sports 5 to showcase its European football portfolio.
Quote:
The La Liga rights are the second major property Sky has failed to land since spending an astonishing £4.2 billion to keep hold of the lion’s share of Premier League football.

vincerooney 01-08-2015 11:02
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surely sky sports cant justify their pricing structure now.

"so 26 quid for sky sports we have all the action!!"
"but you lost champions league, you lost la liga..."
"yeah but we have 160 epl games!!!!!"
"but thats the same number as before ...but youve lost all these other tv deals so surely your price should come down"
"yeah but we have english premier league!!!"
"but your price should now come down as youre offering less for the same amount"
"not listening, not listenINGGGG"
(stubbornly puts hands on ears)

muppetman11 01-08-2015 11:03
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Sky Sports 5............home of repeats :D

1andrew1 01-08-2015 11:14
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35791538)
surely sky sports cant justify their pricing structure now.

"so 26 quid for sky sports we have all the action!!"
"but you lost champions league, you lost la liga..."
"yeah but we have 160 epl games!!!!!"
"but thats the same number as before ...but youve lost all these other tv deals so surely your price should come down"
"yeah but we have english premier league!!!"
"but your price should now come down as youre offering less for the same amount"
"not listening, not listenINGGGG"
(stubbornly puts hands on ears)
Sky's only showing 116 EPL matches now but this will rise to 126 matches from 2016 and this is where the subscription money all ends up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35791539)
Sky Sports 5............home of repeats :D
Branding Sky Sports 5 as the home of European football must be something Sky regrets as it just illustrates the rights it has lost.

harry_hitch 01-08-2015 11:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35791538)
surely sky sports cant justify their pricing structure now.

"so 26 quid for sky sports we have all the action!!"
"but you lost champions league, you lost la liga..."
"yeah but we have 160 epl games!!!!!"
"but thats the same number as before ...but youve lost all these other tv deals so surely your price should come down"
"yeah but we have english premier league!!!"
"but your price should now come down as youre offering less for the same amount"
"not listening, not listenINGGGG"
(stubbornly puts hands on ears)
Lol, Yup, I said similar when Sky originally lost the CL rights. I also said numerous times that BT were not the problem for high sports costs. I still believe this to be the case, the ridiculous costs come from Sky not reducing their costs. BT/ESPN/Setenta etc have always offered a cheaper alternative to Sky, but whilst people still pay the prices Sky continue to dictate, it is not going to change.

I hope, that when more sports rights come up for renewal, that the terrestrial channels can agree more deals to share rights to more sports - like the 6 nations deal. Personally, I would love the BBC and C4 to team up for the cricket.

denphone 01-08-2015 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35791539)
Sky Sports 5............home of repeats :D
Sky Sports 5 ...........Oh what a waste of time.:D

muppetman11 01-08-2015 11:49
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I'd say the bigger issue for Sky with the loss of key sporting rights is it's ability to push through future price increases to fund it's EPL rights. I'd sadly expect non sports customers too see larger than normal increases to foot the bill. Just personal opinion of course.

Chad 01-08-2015 12:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35791547)
I'd say the bigger issue for Sky with the loss of key sporting rights is it's ability to push through future price increases to fund it's EPL rights. I'd sadly expect non sports customers too see larger than normal increases to foot the bill. Just personal opinion of course.
The competition between SKY and BT is great for the consumer :erm: It's pushing almost £700 per year to watch SKY Sports, and BT Sports, in HD depending on who your provider is. I'm sure in the next 3 years this will reach an eye-watering £1000! It's seriously getting to the stage where it'll be cheaper for me to get a season ticket for Rangers, and go to the boxing once a month, than it is to watch at home.... and that includes travel costs and food. Crazy stuff :shocked:

denphone 01-08-2015 12:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35791547)
I'd say the bigger issue for Sky with the loss of key sporting rights is it's ability to push through future price increases to fund it's EPL rights. I'd sadly expect non sports customers too see larger than normal increases to foot the bill. Just personal opinion of course.
And if non sports customers continue to see larger then normal price rises then even more will cut the cord one suspects.

Chad 01-08-2015 12:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35791552)
And if non sports customers continue to see larger then normal price rises then even more will cut the cord one suspects.
Got to agree. Every price increase makes the likes of Amazon Instant Video, Netflix and NOW TV look more appealing. Now all we need is for someone to launch cheap broadband without the need of an expensive phone line attached to the bill.

Virgins cheapest broadband offering is £28.50 per month for 50mb. As a former Virgin Media customer I've still got their cabling in my house. It would be great if Virgin could offer a 20mb service for about £13.99 per month for existing and former customers. I'm not sure what their profit margin would be but they wouldn't have to pay for an engineer to install. I'd even be prepared to pay for the modem and to have it delivered.

muppetman11 01-08-2015 12:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35791550)
The competition between SKY and BT is great for the consumer :erm: It's pushing almost £700 per year to watch SKY Sports, and BT Sports, in HD depending on who your provider is. I'm sure in the next 3 years this will reach an eye-watering £1000! It's seriously getting to the stage where it'll be cheaper for me to get a season ticket for Rangers, and go to the boxing once a month, than it is to watch at home.... and that includes travel costs and food. Crazy stuff :shocked:
Agree with all your points Chad , I only have both Sports packages because they've been vastly discounted by retentions , I would never pay full price.

1andrew1 01-08-2015 13:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35791552)
And if non sports customers continue to see larger then normal price rises then even more will cut the cord one suspects.
Trouble is the price rises are occurring on areas like line rental. (BT's and Plusnet's going up by a £1pm next month; remember there is zero inflation) so even if you cancel the TV service you will be paying for sport via the back door.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35791553)
Got to agree. Every price increase makes the likes of Amazon Instant Video, Netflix and NOW TV look more appealing. Now all we need is for someone to launch cheap broadband without the need of an expensive phone line attached to the bill.
It's not a phone line, it's a line that delivers everything. Sadly it's not going to go away because the broadband companies' costs aren't going to decrease by £16pm.
However, if you live in central London now and elsewhere in the future, the well-financed company Relish is offering you unlimited web access for £20pm without line rental! It can do so as it uses 4G.
"Relish is operated by UK Broadband, part of the PCCW Group that includes HKT, Hong Kong’s premier telecommunications service provider and largest mobile service operator"

Gavin-D 01-08-2015 14:04
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In order to get some live football on Sky Sports 5, Sky will be showing 80% of the football league games on it

harry_hitch 01-08-2015 14:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35791550)
The competition between SKY and BT is great for the consumer :erm: It's pushing almost £700 per year to watch SKY Sports, and BT Sports, in HD depending on who your provider is. I'm sure in the next 3 years this will reach an eye-watering £1000! It's seriously getting to the stage where it'll be cheaper for me to get a season ticket for Rangers, and go to the boxing once a month, than it is to watch at home.... and that includes travel costs and food. Crazy stuff :shocked:
BT etc have been good for the consumer. There are two suppliers of PL football. One charges considerably less than the other.

BT are offering their sports service for free or extremely discounted for those who join their business. It is not their fault if people choose not to join BT and/or choose to pay for it at full whack. Sports fans on VM get it heavily discounted (no, it's fair on non sports fans) too, but is another option not to pay full price.

Sky are the company that, seemingly, over charge customers and keep the costs very high. Let's face it, how many of the games on Sky have actually been worth the cost over the past 23 years for a neutral, I imagine its a pretty low percentage.

OFCOM have given consumers a choice of which sports packages they can buy, it is not their fault if people choose to waste their money on two subscriptions, when one package could suffice.

I can't help but feel that Sky would be charging considerably more than the joint cost of SS and free/discounted BT sports, if there was no competition for them.

passingbat 01-08-2015 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35791567)
Trouble is the price rises are occurring on areas like line rental. (BT's and Plusnet's going up by a £1pm next month; remember there is zero inflation) so even if you cancel the TV service you will be paying for sport via the back door.

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Exactly; and it is really irritating to non sports fans. Why can't some authority take action against this blatantly obvious rip-off? Is the relevant authority blind to it or are they powerless to do anything?

telegramsam 01-08-2015 17:00
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Interesting that it is only Premier league matches were forced to be split between two broadcasters and not The Championship too,which annoys me as I have to sub to Sky Sports to see my team on the box! The BBC used to show a handful of live games once upon a time but I guess `Auntie` can`t afford to anymore?

denphone 01-08-2015 17:19
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Auntie certainly cannot afford it TGS sadly.

Gavin-D 01-08-2015 18:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35791587)
Interesting that it is only Premier league matches were forced to be split between two broadcasters and not The Championship too,which annoys me as I have to sub to Sky Sports to see my team on the box! The BBC used to show a handful of live games once upon a time but I guess `Auntie` can`t afford to anymore?
I've give up on Sky sports given the price, I shall just get a now TV day pass when the Boro are away and on Sky

telegramsam 02-08-2015 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 35791597)
I've give up on Sky sports given the price, I shall just get a now TV day pass when the Boro are away and on Sky
I haven`t got a device capable of accessing Now TV unfortunately so I`l probably end up subbing to sky sports again for another sson. Looking at the Virgin website i see you can only sub to the sky sports bundle now and not chose either sky sports 1 & 4 or sky sports 2 &3? Shame really yo can`t pick and choose really,isn`t it?

Dave42 02-08-2015 15:01
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thought bt would have had moved score to top :(:(

pengedragon 02-08-2015 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35791669)
I haven`t got a device capable of accessing Now TV unfortunately so I`l probably end up subbing to sky sports again for another sson. Looking at the Virgin website i see you can only sub to the sky sports bundle now and not chose either sky sports 1 & 4 or sky sports 2 &3? Shame really yo can`t pick and choose really,isn`t it?
You can normally pick up the now tv boxes with a couple of passes bundled in so essentially free

Gavin-D 02-08-2015 15:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35791669)
I haven`t got a device capable of accessing Now TV unfortunately so I`l probably end up subbing to sky sports again for another sson. Looking at the Virgin website i see you can only sub to the sky sports bundle now and not chose either sky sports 1 & 4 or sky sports 2 &3? Shame really yo can`t pick and choose really,isn`t it?
You could get the now TV box £19.99 in Argos with a 2 day Sky sports pass

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/2484655.htm

Anypermitedroute 02-08-2015 15:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pengedragon (Post 35791673)
You can normally pick up the now tv boxes with a couple of passes bundled in so essentially free
Correct, no excuses for anyone now if that is the way they wish to purchase their TV. I seem to recall people can bulk buy months thus reducing the price further (through codes etc I'm sure some people better in the know are equipped to answer that one)

muppetman11 02-08-2015 17:38
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Hope BT improve the HD PQ today's Chelsea V Arsenal game was well below par.

pengedragon 02-08-2015 18:24
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Yeah I thought it wasn't quite there today, loved the HD on bt last season

Dave42 02-08-2015 19:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35791692)
Hope BT improve the HD PQ today's Chelsea V Arsenal game was well below par.
bet they used most of the bandwidth for the ultra HD not that many would have seen that though

denphone 02-08-2015 19:24
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Hardly anybody would have been able to see that channel as you say Dave.

OLD BOY 02-08-2015 19:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35791677)
Correct, no excuses for anyone now if that is the way they wish to purchase their TV. I seem to recall people can bulk buy months thus reducing the price further (through codes etc I'm sure some people better in the know are equipped to answer that one)
Yes, but it's galling that consumers have to buy another device to watch Now TV when Virgin could simply add it to their choice of streaming services.

neilo 02-08-2015 21:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35791719)
Yes, but it's galling that consumers have to buy another device to watch Now TV when Virgin could simply add it to their choice of streaming services.
Sky would never let them. And Virgin wouldn't want to as it would risk them losing money if people downgrade their TV and watch Now TV.

Dave42 02-08-2015 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35791719)
Yes, but it's galling that consumers have to buy another device to watch Now TV when Virgin could simply add it to their choice of streaming services.
eh sky got to agree OB and you know fine well they wont

1andrew1 03-08-2015 12:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilo (Post 35791732)
Sky would never let them. And Virgin wouldn't want to as it would risk them losing money if people downgrade their TV and watch Now TV.
Let's discuss this again when Sky has put Now TV on its own boxes.;)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35791578)
Exactly; and it is really irritating to non sports fans. Why can't some authority take action against this blatantly obvious rip-off? Is the relevant authority blind to it or are they powerless to do anything?
Powerless. In theory, customers can always move to the Post Office for £15pm line rental but they don't offer fibre.

denphone 03-08-2015 14:20
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TalkTalk unveils £99 Sky Sports Season Ticket.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/talktalk-unv...season-ticket/

Gavin-D 03-08-2015 16:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35791800)
TalkTalk unveils £99 Sky Sports Season Ticket.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/talktalk-unv...season-ticket/
Working out at £11 per month thats a bargain

OLD BOY 03-08-2015 17:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35791782)
Let's discuss this again when Sky has put Now TV on its own boxes.;)
There would be no point, since all the channels on Now TV are already on Sky.

Anypermitedroute 03-08-2015 22:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35791719)
Yes, but it's galling that consumers have to buy another device to watch Now TV when Virgin could simply add it to their choice of streaming services.
No one box has all of them, you have to vote with your feet and choose a provider or a selection to cater your needs or be creative ie Appletv for iTunes, Netflix and then AirPlay from iPad for Amazon prime

Arthurgray50@blu 03-08-2015 22:22
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Please advise someone. Is Premier Sports free on the XL Package.

As at the moment, l am getting it free. Good thing is that Spurs are playing tomorrow. And its on that channel

Or is there a special deal for VM customers - similar to BT Sport ?

tassiekev 03-08-2015 22:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35791890)
Please advise someone. Is Premier Sports free on the XL Package.

As at the moment, l am getting it free. Good thing is that Spurs are playing tomorrow. And its on that channel

Or is there a special deal for VM customers - similar to BT Sport ?
It's free for another few days - think it was the 10th. It was posted on here somewhere a few weeks ago.

Media Boy UK 03-08-2015 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35791892)
It's free for another few days - think it was the 10th. It was posted on here somewhere a few weeks ago.
You are right

More info here: http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...o-join-xl.html

OLD BOY 03-08-2015 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35791889)
No one box has all of them, you have to vote with your feet and choose a provider or a selection to cater your needs or be creative ie Appletv for iTunes, Netflix and then AirPlay from iPad for Amazon prime
Sadly, that is true. But it doesn't have to be that way and it's time OFCOM did something about it.

Superblade7 05-08-2015 10:35
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Sky Sports have just announced they have La Liga for next 3 years.

Dave42 05-08-2015 10:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35792076)
Sky Sports have just announced they have La Liga for next 3 years.
:clap::clap::clap::clap:

muppetman11 05-08-2015 10:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35792076)
Sky Sports have just announced they have La Liga for next 3 years.
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...-three-seasons

one2escape 05-08-2015 10:53
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They needed too or Sky sports football coverage would be really light. I wonder how much extra it cost them and longer us.

Dave42 05-08-2015 11:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by one2escape (Post 35792080)
They needed too or Sky sports football coverage would be really light. I wonder how much extra it cost them and longer us.
light they got 3 times many more games in the one that matter the premier league and sky knows that one that matters plus got the football league games too of course

denphone 05-08-2015 12:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35792076)
Sky Sports have just announced they have La Liga for next 3 years.
So the initial rumours were no more then pure codswallop it seems.

1andrew1 05-08-2015 13:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35792102)
So the initial rumours were no more then pure codswallop it seems.
Yes and no.
I think it's probably true that Sky refused to go a second bid; that seems pretty conclusive. However, what happened after this and the "win by BT Sport" seems to have been conjecture on the part of Charles Sales (he of the Daily Mail) and others.
Here's Sales's latest writing on the matter. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-60m-deal.html

Chad 05-08-2015 23:56
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Seems like shrewd business by SKY:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...celona-Co.html

Picked up the La Liga rights for less than they bid for them initially after pulling out of the bidding race!

denphone 06-08-2015 04:52
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It seems they threw the dummy out of the pram after pulling out of the first rights auction though.

1andrew1 06-08-2015 05:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35792184)
Seems like shrewd business by SKY:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...celona-Co.html

Picked up the La Liga rights for less than they bid for them initially after pulling out of the bidding race!
Agreed, good tactics and outcome from Sky, poor handling by Mediapro. Will BT even bother to bid in three years' time?
What interests me is how Sky knew that BT's bid was well below theirs? Surely Mediapro wouldn't tell them? Then again...:)

Mad Max 06-08-2015 20:31
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Watching the Astra V West Ham game on BT Sport Europe HD, pretty poor from the info point of view, in respect that they are only showing the current scoreline, but not the aggregate score, which is usually shown in brackets below the current score.

neilo 06-08-2015 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35792322)
Watching the Astra V West Ham game on BT Sport Europe HD, pretty poor from the info point of view, in respect that they are only showing the current scoreline, but not the aggregate score, which is usually shown in brackets below the current score.
Probably couldn't squeeze it on the screen with that behemoth of a logo.

They really need to sort that. The DOG needs to be at the top of the screen and less intrusive.

tassiekev 07-08-2015 10:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilo (Post 35792329)
Probably couldn't squeeze it on the screen with that behemoth of a logo.

They really need to sort that. The DOG needs to be at the top of the screen and less intrusive.
Don't know why we need them anyway (DOGs), they're a distraction, for me at least, on all channels that use them. If people can't remember what channel they're watching or don't know which button to press to find out, then their remote controls should be impounded until they've done a Soviet Union style re-education course. And yes, I did get out of bed on the wrong side this morning.

telegramsam 07-08-2015 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35792322)
Watching the Astra V West Ham game on BT Sport Europe HD, pretty poor from the info point of view, in respect that they are only showing the current scoreline, but not the aggregate score, which is usually shown in brackets below the current score.
Agree entirely,it was rather poor. Couldn`t understand why the score was at the top left and the station id at the bottom right too. You would of at least followed the host tv stations lead and put the station id at the top the same as the score,wouldn`t you?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35792401)
Don't know why we need them anyway (DOGs), they're a distraction, for me at least, on all channels that use them. If people can't remember what channel they're watching or don't know which button to press to find out, then their remote controls should be impounded until they've done a Soviet Union style re-education course. And yes, I did get out of bed on the wrong side this morning.
Why can`t the station id etc be displayed on the front of the box instead of on the screen?

tassiekev 07-08-2015 19:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35792493)
Agree entirely,it was rather poor. Couldn`t understand why the score was at the top left and the station id at the bottom right too. You would of at least followed the host tv stations lead and put the station id at the top the same as the score,wouldn`t you?

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Why can`t the station id etc be displayed on the front of the box instead of on the screen?
Thought I had the problem solved - covered it with blutak but when the plasma in the telly got hot, it melted and fell to the floor. Back to the drawing board.:dunce: ;););)

OLD BOY 08-08-2015 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35792498)
Thought I had the problem solved - covered it with blutak but when the plasma in the telly got hot, it melted and fell to the floor. Back to the drawing board.:dunce: ;););)
That did make me laugh! :LOL::

But seriously, is it that big a problem? Why can't you just ignore it and watch the action? :dmonk::beer:

tassiekev 08-08-2015 17:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35792600)
That did make me laugh! :LOL::

But seriously, is it that big a problem? Why can't you just ignore it and watch the action? :dmonk::beer:
I was having fun, they do annoy me but not to that extent. Just wanted everybody to lighten up - don't worry, be happy:).

tassiekev 10-08-2015 14:12
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Ofcom intervenes over BT Sport "unfair contract terms"

http://www.a516digital.com/2015/08/o...rt-unfair.html

Makes me wonder if this will have any affect for VM customers

Gavin-D 10-08-2015 16:40
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Bit of a strange e-mail for VM a short time ago

Get a load of this. You can get loads more entertainment to add to your existing TV, broadband and telephone - and it's so easy to do with our brilliant bundle for just £2.65 extra a month. Just click here before midnight on 17th August and get ready for: The Big Kahuna Sports bundle - with 7 Sky Sports channels, broadband and calls

All this for just £96.50 a month (that's only £2.65 more a month than you're paying now), plus £16.99 a month line rental. Why not make room for it all now? You can order online until 17th August - after that, give us a quick call to upgrade on 0800 952 8022 and quote "Big Kahuna Sports Bundle".

I say strange because my current package is £61.71 maths was never my strong point but even I can work out its more than £2.65 more a month

denphone 10-08-2015 17:41
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Sky Sports customers to gain free Sun Goals access.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/sky-sports-c...-goals-access/

tassiekev 10-08-2015 18:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35792852)
Sky Sports customers to gain free Sun Goals access.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/sky-sports-c...-goals-access/
""The Sun’s world-class football journalism"" - no comment needed.

denphone 10-08-2015 18:41
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There is only one place the Sun belongs and that is in the bin.

muppetman11 10-08-2015 18:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35792869)
There is only one place the Sun belongs and that is in the bin.
Or the rabbits hutch :D welcome addition on the go but I agree dreadful newspaper.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ss-this-season

telegramsam 11-08-2015 14:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35792852)
Sky Sports customers to gain free Sun Goals access.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/sky-sports-c...-goals-access/
Is this ALL Sky Sports customers or just those who receive Sky Sports through Sky tv?

denphone 11-08-2015 14:50
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Those who receive Sky Sports through Sky TV one would imagine TGS.

telegramsam 11-08-2015 15:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35793011)
Those who receive Sky Sports through Sky TV one would imagine TGS.
Yes that`s what I thought when i saw the advert last night.

Gavin-D 17-08-2015 09:20
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Sky's latest paper ad which takes up 2 pages in the sun today

1 year contract with BT for just 17 UEFA champions league match weeks

denphone 17-08-2015 10:16
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For Christ sake can't these companies ever grow up and talk to each other like grown adults.:(:td:

muppetman11 17-08-2015 10:28
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To be honest when you start to break down BT's rights they have a lot of second rate ones , I guess it depends what your interested in for me Sky has EPL (most games and key games) , Key tennis events , Rugby league , La Liga , NFL (games at a time you can watch them) , everything what matters in Golf , Cricket plus much more.

The problem for many is the extortionate price a Sky Sport sub now demands , BT then represents a good lower cost alternative.

Richc1977 17-08-2015 12:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35793810)
To be honest when you start to break down BT's rights they have a lot of second rate ones , I guess it depends what your interested in for me Sky has EPL (most games and key games) , Key tennis events , Rugby league , La Liga , NFL (games at a time you can watch them) , everything what matters in Golf , Cricket plus much more.

The problem for many is the extortionate price a Sky Sport sub now demands , BT then represents a good lower cost alternative.
Plus F1 and championship football & playoffs

Yes very true SKY still have the vast majority of prime picks sport that's not on FTA however I think BT are still the first to seriously challenge and chip away at SKY. Unfortunately I see much of the chipping going forward resulting in FTA content going subscription.

As to prime content to be fair BT do have almost 45% of the first pick PL matches wheras Sentana and ESPN had none. Plus if you follow English rugby BT is the subscription to have with exclusive premiership and first pick of the key European matches.

I'd like to see BT pick up some prime content in other sports, but most are tied up until 2018/19 now. Looking at the rights coming up it's really only tennis where there is decent content up for grabs. Tennis would be a good fit, they already have the WTA tour. Both US Open and Australian Open rights are coming up for tender soon. Plus there is talk of them sharing Wimbledon with BBC.

lever 17-08-2015 12:15
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I don't think BT Sport will be around for the long run. I think they only launched it with intention of getting their broadband numbers up due to people opting to take all services with one provider.

I have a theory that BT will end up selling off BT Sports Division to beIN Sports

denphone 17-08-2015 12:32
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Sorry but l think BT are in it for the long run.

OLD BOY 17-08-2015 12:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35793840)
Sorry but l think BT are in it for the long run.
Me, too, Den. I think that BT see themselves as a serious player in the area of TV content and they shouldn't be under-estimated.

They took a risk in setting up their own sports channels, and the coming launch of AMC indicates to me that they are intent on setting up their own TV channel packages as direct competition to Sky. They've got a way to go yet, but they are off to a flying start!

tassiekev 17-08-2015 13:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35793848)
Me, too, Den. I think that BT see themselves as a serious player in the area of TV content and they shouldn't be under-estimated.

They took a risk in setting up their own sports channels, and the coming launch of AMC indicates to me that they are intent on setting up their own TV channel packages as direct competition to Sky. They've got a way to go yet, but they are off to a flying start!
Couldn't agree more, BT's BB speeds will be up to 500Mbs within 5 years and G.Fast technology will enable most subscribers to achieve at least 50MBs - enough to carry numerous 4k channels (only live channels need higher speeds). Starting from the lowest number of installed TV boxes (about 1M), BT will have lower install costs than VM (4M boxes to replace) and Sky (10M boxes to replace). 4k TV prices will drop like a stone this year and people will want content to suit - I've already seen one 40" 4k TV selling at £239 (Hisense).

lever 17-08-2015 14:47
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They may well be in it for the long run, However I feel the inevitable launch of beIN Sports in the UK may swing them into providing entertainment tv along with Sky. Reason I believe this is because beIN have set up a London office with some top rights people.

Besides those Qatari's have some serious money (that can buy hosting the World Cup)

muppetman11 17-08-2015 15:13
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It's irrelevant how much money they have it would be madness to launch in such a fiercely competitive market , it's all very well paying the most but when you've had to outbid the likes of Sky and BT your going to have issues making it back.

1andrew1 17-08-2015 15:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lever (Post 35793882)
Reason I believe this is because beIN have set up a London office with some top rights people.
Presumably they're purchasing rights to events in the UK and Europe for their channels. The UK is not an attractive market for sports broadcasters to invest in unless they own a platform, as Setanta and ESPN learnt. So the only way I could see beIN in the UK would be in conjunction with/buying a platform owner.

lever 17-08-2015 15:45
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They are on good terms with Sky and BT so will be interesting to see if they strike a deal with either one in the future.

Richc1977 17-08-2015 17:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lever (Post 35793835)
I don't think BT Sport will be around for the long run. I think they only launched it with intention of getting their broadband numbers up due to people opting to take all services with one provider.

I have a theory that BT will end up selling off BT Sports Division to beIN Sports
I don't agree, I think BT are in it for the long run and have the muscle to take on rivals. Their investment in ULTRA HD is a pretty good indicator of intent.

Key for them is getting a look in for some rights, in an interview a few months back Delia Bushell (Managing Director of BT TV and Sport) suggested that some rights holders had rejected offers from BT as they feared another Sentana, ITV digital situation. BeIN would face the same issues in the UK while BT's reputation will no doubt only get better.

However there are a couple of factors that I think could impact the market and potential risk areas.

1. Sports providers deciding to supply content direct rather than via channels as more people move to getting content via netflx, amazon etc.. In the US you can get NFL and MLB etc... via game passes. I'd personally love to see this for cricket and tennis.

2. Sport rights being sold and made available on a pan-European basis, as per Eurosport Olympics.

1andrew1 17-08-2015 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richc1977 (Post 35793920)
I don't agree, I think BT are in it for the long run and have the muscle to take on rivals. Their investment in ULTRA HD is a pretty good indicator of intent.

Key for them is getting a look in for some rights, in an interview a few months back Delia Bushell (Managing Director of BT TV and Sport) suggested that some rights holders had rejected offers from BT as they feared another Sentana, IT digital situation. BeIN would face the same issues in the UK while BT's reputation will no doubt only get better.

However there are a couple of factors that I think could impact the market and potential risk areas.

1. Sports providers deciding to supply content direct rather than via channels as more people move to getting content via netflx, amazon etc.. In the US you can get NFL and MLB etc... via game passes. I'd personally love to see this for cricket and tennis.

2. Sport rights being sold and made available on a pan-European basis, as per Eurosport Olympics.
Some interesting points. I think the possibility of dedicated sports channels run by the sports bodies is a real one. Obviously, it depends on whether they will make more money by by selling directly. The growth of non-traditional platforms like Smart TVs and Roku make this easier now than ever.
I think the sale of European rights by the Olympics is pretty much a one-off. Apart from EuroSport, I can't think of any broadcasters in Europe that can bid for events on a pan-European scale. And with a £50m turnover in the UK, it's not viable for EuroSport to bid for big events in this country unless it becomes a premium channel. And a third premium sports channel would really struggle against Sky and BT.
If the European sports market did consolidate across countries, BT has an alliance with DeutscheTelekom (soon to become the largest single BT shareholder) so doubtless there would be joint bids for rights with other DeutscheTelekom affiliates.

denphone 18-08-2015 13:20
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BT’s AMC channel arrives on EPGs.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/bts-amc-chan...rives-on-epgs/

lever 18-08-2015 15:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35793892)
Presumably they're purchasing rights to events in the UK and Europe for their channels. The UK is not an attractive market for sports broadcasters to invest in unless they own a platform, as Setanta and ESPN learnt. So the only way I could see beIN in the UK would be in conjunction with/buying a platform owner.
A few people I have been speaking to who work for tv sports market are also under the impression a beIN launch is sooner rather than later. They have now entered Europe (France, Spain & Turkey) and see the UK as the next market to expand there ever growing network.

A quick look on the internet at the countries they are based in is impressive!

muppetman11 18-08-2015 15:17
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I'll believe it when I see it , not a chance in my opinion. The competition between BT and Sky is inflating even lesser sporting rights making it not a good market to move into in my opinion.

denphone 18-08-2015 15:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794135)
I'll believe it when I see it , not a chance in my opinion. The competition between BT and Sky is inflating even lesser sporting rights making it not a good market to move into in my opinion.
+1

tassiekev 18-08-2015 19:55
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Anybody notice that 'Europe' has disappeared from the BT DOG? - whoops - oh no Michael! Ah well.

4 minutes later - you're forgiven Michael

Dave42 18-08-2015 20:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35794200)
Anybody notice that 'Europe' has disappeared from the BT DOG? - whoops - oh no Michael! Ah well.

4 minutes later - you're forgiven Michael
it much better at top instead of bottom with premier league games they really need to move it to top for premier league games too

muppetman11 18-08-2015 21:44
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How bad a quality is the SD picture on the BT Sports channels really poor thank goodness for HD.

tassiekev 18-08-2015 22:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794235)
How bad a quality is the SD picture on the BT Sports channels really poor thank goodness for HD.
Not too bad on mine, but I'm glad I don't have to watch it in SD. Otherwise I thought the coverage was very good. Next week I'll be watching on BTTV so I'm looking forward to checking out the different camera angles etc.

muppetman11 18-08-2015 22:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tassiekev (Post 35794243)
Not too bad on mine, but I'm glad I don't have to watch it in SD. Otherwise I thought the coverage was very good. Next week I'll be watching on BTTV so I'm looking forward to checking out the different camera angles etc.
I was watching on BT TV , HD was fine however flicking to SD and the PQ was horrific.

tassiekev 18-08-2015 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794244)
I was watching on BT TV , HD was fine however flicking to SD and the PQ was horrific.
I'll have to make sure I've got the right channel next week then:)

denphone 19-08-2015 15:01
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BT Sport extends Premier League TV deal with Sunset+Vine.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...al-sunset-vine

alwaysabear 19-08-2015 19:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794244)
I was watching on BT TV , HD was fine however flicking to SD and the PQ was horrific.
Just had a look at the Valencia v Monaco game on the red button, the quality of the picture is pretty bad, reminds me of Eurosport years ago.

muppetman11 19-08-2015 20:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35794402)
Just had a look at the Valencia v Monaco game on the red button, the quality of the picture is pretty bad, reminds me of Eurosport years ago.:(
Luckily I'm in HD but just tried the match you refer to in SD and the picture is terrible. Are you getting a kind of strobing effect on the lines ?

alwaysabear 19-08-2015 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794404)
Luckily I'm in HD but just tried the match you refer to in SD and the picture is terrible. Are you getting a kind of strobing effect on the lines ?
Not really its just very grainy .Gone back to watching Celtic although not my game of choice in HD.

tassiekev 19-08-2015 20:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35794405)
Not really its just very grainy .Gone back to watching Celtic although not my game of choice in HD.
Can't even get the red button to work - just got that circle thing in the middle of the screen, been there for a good couple of minutes now.

EDIT: Decided to work after pressing TB a couple of times and then red button. PQ is ordinary at best.

pengedragon 19-08-2015 21:29
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Not sure if I've just been lucky but the pq on the Valencia game doesn't look too bad at all here

1andrew1 20-08-2015 00:00
Re: ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35794135)
I'll believe it when I see it , not a chance in my opinion. The competition between BT and Sky is inflating even lesser sporting rights making it not a good market to move into in my opinion.
Agreed. Interestingly, beIN have acquired La Liga rights for Poland, a country where they don't run any channels yet. So Poland could be their next outpost but I doubt they can set the channel up in two days, which is when La Liga begins! http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2015/...ts-blow-to-nc/

Gavin-D 20-08-2015 14:12
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For the first time, Sky Sports will show every La Liga match throughout the 2015/16 season, including more than 300 live games, with a comprehensive Spanish football offering across its platforms.

Viewers can watch all matches outside 3pm Saturday blocked hours every week via Sky Sports TV channels, the red button and Sky's digital TV channel, Sky Sports Xtra, which is available to customers through skysports.com and the Sky Sports iPad app.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...liga-in-201516


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