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jem 03-07-2026 20:19

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36218846)
about the same as 20,000 years ago

20,000 years ago, what is now Cleethorps would have been buried under some 50-100m of ice.

RichardCoulter 04-07-2026 15:28

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If the Government want to encourage people to use solar panels they should skew any subsidies so that younger people get less (or none), because they will have the time to recoup the financial gains. The older a person is, the less viable it becomes, so subsidies need to be more generous to encourage take up.

Hugh 04-07-2026 16:38

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36218876)
If the Government want to encourage people to use solar panels they should skew any subsidies so that younger people get less (or none), because they will have the time to recoup the financial gains. The older a person is, the less viable it becomes, so subsidies need to be more generous to encourage take up.


But surely when a young person buys the deceased older person’s house, they would benefit from any subsidy given to the older person - the circle of life…

Paul 04-07-2026 17:31

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I would think most young people are unlikely to even afford a house these days, nevermind solar stuff.

damien c 04-07-2026 20:27

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36218882)
I would think most young people are unlikely to even afford a house these days, nevermind solar stuff.

With the way Solar is going, they will be more able to build a house from solar panels than buy or rent a house.

Average salary iirc needed for a single person to buy a house under the age of 40 is £75K a year, after 40 iirc it increases by $10K every 5 years.

That £75K is to allow for putting £10K away for 4 years to be able to put down a £48K deposit as houses are going up and up in price.

If you don't need to save a deposit, perhaps you have already been saving then you "only" need to be earning £56K a year, far beyond what is possible for most people, even renting is going to require more than £30k a year soon!

Where I live, 6 years ago houses were £130K they are now £200K+ on average and only increasing, which is a bonus for those who will be able to pay the tax that thieving reeves will demand, but for those that can't they will lose the house and any money from it, as the government will just take it because you fail to pay your "fair share" and the fines, interest etc will be made to take the full value.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2026 01:00

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36218880)
But surely when a young person buys the deceased older person’s house, they would benefit from any subsidy given to the older person - the circle of life…

They would and that's a good thing. Without a decent subsidy, it's unlikely that the house would benefit from solar power, but if one were to be given, the younger person would actually benefit from it indirectly.

I guess it depends on the time lapse, do solar panels last indefinitely?

Sirius 05-07-2026 05:37

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36218895)
They would and that's a good thing. Without a decent subsidy, it's unlikely that the house would benefit from solar power, but if one were to be given, the younger person would actually benefit from it indirectly.

I guess it depends on the time lapse, do solar panels last indefinitely?

Nothing last indefinitely

papa smurf 05-07-2026 07:14

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36218897)
Nothing last indefinitely

my solar panels had a 25 year life span ,they get less effective every year, so you could pass on a bit of a starmer as someone will have to fund new ones

mrmistoffelees 05-07-2026 08:10

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36218893)
With the way Solar is going, they will be more able to build a house from solar panels than buy or rent a house.

Average salary iirc needed for a single person to buy a house under the age of 40 is £75K a year, after 40 iirc it increases by $10K every 5 years.

That £75K is to allow for putting £10K away for 4 years to be able to put down a £48K deposit as houses are going up and up in price.

If you don't need to save a deposit, perhaps you have already been saving then you "only" need to be earning £56K a year, far beyond what is possible for most people, even renting is going to require more than £30k a year soon!

Where I live, 6 years ago houses were £130K they are now £200K+ on average and only increasing, which is a bonus for those who will be able to pay the tax that thieving reeves will demand, but for those that can't they will lose the house and any money from it, as the government will just take it because you fail to pay your "fair share" and the fines, interest etc will be made to take the full value.

Which tax are you referring to ? SD ?

Taf 05-07-2026 17:40

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Blair warns Burnham to not increase capital gains tax. I would have thought that Blair's millions would be secreted-away offshore?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b3009140.html

damien c 05-07-2026 19:15

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36218906)
Which tax are you referring to ? SD ?

That would be inheritance tax depending on the value of the house and who it's left to and the value of the house.

If my mum and dad were to leave me their house, and one of them passed and the house was worth £550k (it's not) but I would have to find £20K from somewhere, if I couldn't find it, and the remaining parent couldn't, the house would be taken, we would lose it because we would be forced to sell it, to pay the inheritance tax.

Now I know that is not Reeves who set that, it was done before her, but she could have changed it to increase the value of home before paying it, but no, she kept it as it is and instead decided to implement policies that actually caused a bloke to commit suicide, someone who potentially is a relative of mine, but I am not sure as I have not done a family tree.

RichardCoulter 05-07-2026 19:36

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36218974)
That would be inheritance tax depending on the value of the house and who it's left to and the value of the house.

If my mum and dad were to leave me their house, and one of them passed and the house was worth £550k (it's not) but I would have to find £20K from somewhere, if I couldn't find it, and the remaining parent couldn't, the house would be taken, we would lose it because we would be forced to sell it, to pay the inheritance tax.

Now I know that is not Reeves who set that, it was done before her, but she could have changed it to increase the value of home before paying it, but no, she kept it as it is and instead decided to implement policies that actually caused a bloke to commit suicide, someone who potentially is a relative of mine, but I am not sure as I have not done a family tree.

This isn't correct. Allowances above the standard £325,000 exemption are made for spouses and children.

mrmistoffelees 05-07-2026 19:38

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Originally Posted by damien c (Post 36218974)
That would be inheritance tax depending on the value of the house and who it's left to and the value of the house.

If my mum and dad were to leave me their house, and one of them passed and the house was worth £550k (it's not) but I would have to find £20K from somewhere, if I couldn't find it, and the remaining parent couldn't, the house would be taken, we would lose it because we would be forced to sell it, to pay the inheritance tax.

Now I know that is not Reeves who set that, it was done before her, but she could have changed it to increase the value of home before paying it, but no, she kept it as it is and instead decided to implement policies that actually caused a bloke to commit suicide, someone who potentially is a relative of mine, but I am not sure as I have not done a family tree.

I’m sorry to hear that , and thanks for explaining.

jem 05-07-2026 20:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36218975)
This isn't correct. Allowances above the standard £325,000 exemption are made for spouses and children.

Spouses yes, they are exempt for CGT on a property, children not so.

Dingbat 05-07-2026 21:24

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36218975)
This isn't correct. Allowances above the standard £325,000 exemption are made for spouses and children.

And when both parents pass, it becomes £500,000.

https://www.gov.uk/inheritance-tax/passing-on-home


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