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Dave42 25-10-2022 21:42

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Cruella back shocking

Hugh 25-10-2022 21:47

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Luckily, she wasn’t fired from the same post a week ago for a National Security breach…

Quote:

Liz Truss fired Home Secretary Suella Braverman for what was described as a national security breach, a dramatic move that heaps even more pressure on Britain’s premier as she clings to power.

Braverman shared secret documents on a personal mobile phone, four officials familiar with the matter said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ecurity-breach

What was it Sunak promised in his speed today - "restore trust, rebuild confidence" and " Integrity & Accountability?"

Sephiroth 25-10-2022 21:58

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36138460)
Luckily, she wasn’t fired from the same post a week ago for a National Security breach…




https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ecurity-breach

What was it Sunak promised in his speed today - "restore trust, rebuild confidence" and " Integrity & Accountability?"

Your sarcasm well exceeds Braverman's transgression.
She's an excellent appointment.

Hugh 25-10-2022 22:23

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Someone* who passed on highly sensitive documents to another person who isn’t cleared is an "excellent appointment"? She sent it to her private email, then tried to send it from there to John Hayes - this was an active attempt to breach security protocols.

*the same person who is in charge of the Departments (MI5, GCHQ, Special Branch) whose job is to ensure that classified information doesn’t fall into the wrong hands?

It wasn’t a transgression, it was a premeditated security breach - if a Civil Servant had done it, they would have been prosecuted.

Irony doesn’t begin to describe what is happening, so I believe sarcasm is justified…

Dave42 25-10-2022 22:44

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

At noon Rishi Sunak promised “integrity, professionalism & accountability”

At 5pm he made Suella Braverman Home Secretary, 1wk after she resigned for Ministerial Code breach/security lapse

He put party before country. Security is too important for this irresponsible Tory chaos
https://twitter.com/YvetteCooperMP/s...49324144062467

100% spot on Yvette

Sephiroth 25-10-2022 22:58

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36138466)
Someone* who passed on highly sensitive documents to another person who isn’t cleared is an "excellent appointment"? She sent it to her private email, then tried to send it from there to John Hayes - this was an active attempt to breach security protocols.

*the same person who is in charge of the Departments (MI5, GCHQ, Special Branch) whose job is to ensure that classified information doesn’t fall into the wrong hands?

It wasn’t a transgression, it was a premeditated security breach - if a Civil Servant had done it, they would have been prosecuted.

Irony doesn’t begin to describe what is happening, so I believe sarcasm is justified

Of course you do.

Hugh 25-10-2022 23:09

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
So do you think it’s ok for the person in charge of our Nation’s security to actively try to evade measures put in place to ensure highly sensitive information doesn’t get passed to persons who aren’t cleared to receive it?

Sephiroth 25-10-2022 23:14

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36138469)
So do you think it’s ok for the person in charge of our Nation’s security to actively try to evade measures put in place to ensure highly sensitive information doesn’t get passed to persons who aren’t cleared to receive it?

You're completely over-egging the transgression. Knuckles were rapped, lesson learned and she has a popular programme of work to fulfil.

Get over it, You're always so holier than thou, as well as sarcastic.

Paul 26-10-2022 03:17

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36138469)
..actively try to evade measures put in place

I'm pretty sure she stated she made an "honest mistake", not set out to with some nefarious plot to "actively evade". :rolleyes:

Its also seems to be some peoples opinion that the whole thing was a bit of a charade to write a stinging resignation letter.

1andrew1 26-10-2022 08:33

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36138470)
You're completely over-egging the transgression. Knuckles were rapped, lesson learned and she has a popular programme of work to fulfil.

Get over it, You're always so holier than thou, as well as sarcastic.

The unsuccessful Rwanda plan and the inability post Brexit to return asylum seekers to France do not make her programme popular. Like Truss, her actions speak louder than her words.

I thought Sunak had appointed her to try and unify the Party and not for her track record. I'm now hearing that it was likely a reward for her crucial endorsement.

Damien 26-10-2022 08:45

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36138470)
You're completely over-egging the transgression. Knuckles were rapped, lesson learned and she has a popular programme of work to fulfil.

Get over it, You're always so holier than thou, as well as sarcastic.

He is right though that if that had been a pleb they would at least have been fired. Obviously, we expect less of our politicians than we do of each other so that no longer disqualifies anyone from high office.

daveeb 26-10-2022 09:06

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36138486)
He is right though that if that had been a pleb they would at least have been fired. Obviously, we expect less of our politicians than we do of each other so that no longer disqualifies anyone from high office.

Quite right. Leading by example isn't in vogue any more, rather do as I say not as I do. The government have been consistent on this for a long time.

Kursk 26-10-2022 09:22

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
When can we expect the result of her prosecution under The Official Secrets Act 1989? Rules are rules after all or can we all enjoy impunity (and with reward)?

jfman 26-10-2022 09:32

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Fair play to Rishi he found time on his first day to phone the First Ministers in the colonies. Something his predecessor didn’t manage at all in her tenure.

Hugh 26-10-2022 10:00

Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36138479)
I'm pretty sure she stated she made an "honest mistake", not set out to with some nefarious plot to "actively evade". :rolleyes:

Its also seems to be some peoples opinion that the whole thing was a bit of a charade to write a stinging resignation letter.

Not sure sending information from your Government email account to your private Gmail account, then sending on that information to individuals from the Gmail account, could be classed as an "honest mistake"…

Looks more like a premeditated effort to avoid an email trail on the Government email system.


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