Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36090030)

Yes good old joe has blood on his wrinkled hands.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36090031)

He was continuing the same policy as your buddy Donny. 'America First bring our troops home....' All conveniently forgotten now?

Same as with Iraq. We want quick military solutions but aren't prepared to follow it through in the years afterwards, and are gobsmacked when the countries revert to chaos when we lose interest.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36090031)

He was continuing the same policy as your buddy Donny. 'America First bring our troops home....' All conveniently forgotten now?

Same as with Iraq. We want quick military solutions but aren't prepared to follow it through in the years afterwards, and are gobsmacked when the countries revert to chaos when we lose interest.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36090031)

He was continuing the same policy as your buddy Donny. 'America First bring our troops home....' All conveniently forgotten now?
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36090037)

why didn't he not continue it then?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36090035)

From a time perspective we followed it through. We spent twenty years fighting the taliban and training their military & police and providing them with equipment.

But we (and by we i mean NATO) failed by

Not understanding the complex political/historical situation in Afghanistan

Allowing the corruption to continue unabated in the military & police.

it's hardly surprising that they collapsed/withdrew when they hadn't been paid for months & had no resupply

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090040)

UK has a moral responsibility to rescue everyone in Afghanistan who assisted us and to take in its fair share of refugees resulting from the Taliban taking over. Nigel Farage may not like it but it's the least we can do.

The same applies to the other countries involved including of course the USA.

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36090044)

One argument that was discussed on TV this morning is where will they go when we struggle to even look after our own.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090040)

The Afghanistan occupation will definitely generate history books and case studies on how not to re-construct a country for many years to come.

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US public opinion favoured an exit I guess. Doesn't excuse it though.

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Yes, the government machinery and economy was in no state to function when we pulled out. All well and good providing weapons but you need a functioning state in place too after an occupation that can stand on its own too feet. We knew that in WW2.

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UK has a moral responsibility to rescue everyone in Afghanistan who assisted us and to take in its fair share of refugees resulting from the Taliban taking over. Nigel Farage may not like it but it's the least we can do.

The same applies to the other countries involved including of course the USA.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36090047)

All 35 MILLION of them?
Here's an idea, why don't they remain there, get off their backsides and do something about it themselves.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090045)

We made them our own by getting involved in the first place.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36090040)

UK has a moral responsibility to rescue everyone in Afghanistan who assisted us and to take in its fair share of refugees resulting from the Taliban taking over.

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36090049)

You maybe did, I certainly didn't.

Some of us knew better than to get involved . . what was that quote about history and same mistakes or something?

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