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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36066338)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622331

It begins.

... and it's petty revengism.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066340)

... and it's petty revengism.

Just bribe them with a couple of Cod;)

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066340)

... and it's petty revengism.

Revenge for all those high-paid jobs moving to the Netherlands? ;)

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36066338)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-55622331

It begins.

IIRC The only risk comes from where the meat ends up in something like pigs swill.
The perverse thing about it, is that things like Foot and Mouth start off as being airborne and brought into the UK from mainland Europe(eg France), not the other way around.
Horse meat masquerading as beef, also came from Europe, along with Scrapie in sheep.
Whether food, people, or products, the risk is more FROM Europe, than from the UK. Which is likely to be safer, Eastern Europe or the UK?

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066340)

... and it's petty revengism.

Is it? do these rules only apply to the UK ?

You wanted this, you don't get to cherry pick or complain when we are treat as any other country outside of the EU.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36066347)

Is it? do these rules only apply to the UK ?

You wanted this, you don't get to cherry pick or complain when we are treat as any other country outside of the EU.

Are you sure about this? Anyone entering Poland from Belarus has their sandwiches confiscated? Anyone entering Malta from Israel has their sandwiches confiscated? You sure?

And no - I didn't want this when I championed Brexit. The pettiness should appal you rather than send you back into Remainer mode.

Same goes for @Andrew.

Re: Britain outside the EU

It's not petty at all, rules are rules.

Just because there was a TV crew ready and waiting to film UK lorry drivers getting a slap doesn't mean it was orchestrated beforehand. ;)

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36066347)

Is it? do these rules only apply to the UK ?

You wanted this, you don't get to cherry pick or complain when we are treat as any other country outside of the EU.

As per Seph’s response. Are we really to believe border officials are being this fastidious at the EU’s various non-UK entry points? This is petty point scoring, nothing more. I predict these border officials won’t be able to sustain this level of scrutiny for any length of time. Perhaps they were only able to sustain it for the duration of the TV crew’s visit.

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In other news, reciprocal medical treatment has now been agreed with the EU. Holders of a UK-issued Global Health Insurance Card (GHIC) will get the same cover previously obtained via the EU’s EHIC card. EU citizens will be covered on the same terms when visiting the UK.

HMG’s aim appears to be to have the GHIC act as the necessary proof of entitlement in all countries where the UK has reciprocal agreements, although this is not yet the case (presumably existing arrangements need formal agreement before they can be changed).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55624240

Of course, there was never any doubt that arrangements like this would be made. Reciprocal access to state health services was not invented by the EU and is not unique to it. The UK has such agreements with 16 non-EEA countries.

Yet another remainer bogeyman shot in the head.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066353)

Are you sure about this? Anyone entering Poland from Belarus has their sandwiches confiscated? Anyone entering Malta from Israel has their sandwiches confiscated? You sure?

They should do

https://ec.europa.eu/food/animals/an...nal_imports_en

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Travellers are not allowed to bring in meat, milk or their products, unless they are coming with less than 10 kilograms of these products from the Faeroe Islands or Greenland

as we have done for when we were part of the EU

https://flywith.virginatlantic.com/g...trictions.html

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If you're flying in to the UK from outside the EU, there are certain foods you are not allowed to bring with you, even if they are for your personal use.

These foods include:

Meat
Meat products
Milk and dairy products
Potatoes
Some fresh food products, such as fruit, fish, eggs and honey, may be allowed from some countries.

Re: Britain outside the EU

They plead the proximity of the UK to the EU for level playing field purposes. But for sandwiches purposes, that proximity carries no weight.

It's petty application of the rules to punish us.

Re: Britain outside the EU

Plenty of Dutch truckers around here, all we need to do is introduce full deep body cavity searches for Dutch truckers.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066360)

They plead the proximity of the UK to the EU for level playing field purposes. But for sandwiches purposes, that proximity carries no weight.

It's petty application of the rules to punish us.

I'm afraid Ben's links tell it as it is but the officers do seem a bit keen! Perhaps it was to make a necessary point as many have been carrying on as if we were still members causing delays and hold-ups.

A bit of background.

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The trouble is most of those of working age have little experience of life before the EU. We have traded tariff-free for as long as most people can remember and free of any checks at all since the implementation of the single market almost three decades ago. The single market was in place by the time the channel tunnel opened in 1994, so the UK has traded under its terms for as long as there has been a land border with the EU. On 31 December 2020, the trade framework that existed for much of people’s working lives was torn up. It seems that many have not yet grasped what this means.

It is unlikely that any of this will change significantly. Whatever ‘sorting out’ business groups hope the government will do is unlikely to make much difference. The bureaucracy involved in our new trading agreement with the EU is not a bug. It’s a feature. It is meant to be like this. Outside the single market and customs union, things are more difficult than when you are inside them. That’s the whole point.

Lobbying government or MPs won’t do much good as there is not much they can do about it. It’s not like before, when we could complain about EU rules and exert some influence to get them changed. This is now an agreement with an external trading bloc signed by our sovereign government. That, too, was the whole point.

https://flipchartfairytales.wordpres...its-a-feature/

Re: Britain outside the EU

Are some of you Remainers blind? It's punishment.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36066365)

Are some of you Remainers blind? It's punishment.

To be fair, we Brexiteers had to grumble about pettifogging European bureaucracy for decades before we managed to secure and then win a referendum. I guess we just have to give the Europhiles their space to complain about it now.

Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36066366)

By "it" you presumably mean "Brexit". I'm sure that nothing the Brexiteers can say on this forum will stop the Europhiles from standing up for EU bureaucracy.

What really irks me is that they don't condemn the EU's pettiness in singling out traffic from the UK.

Does anyone know whether or not they check on sandwiches at NI entry points?