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Re: Election 2019 Exit Poll

Well I'm gutted. 5 more years of that eejit, as well as Wee Krankie

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36020149)

Well, it’s all over bar the shouting. Labour collapse everywhere, which is great for the UK but annoyingly has put the SNP miles out in front in Scotland. Tories’ vote share in Scotland held up well enough but Labour tanked here as badly as anywhere and the Nats picked up all those votes.

Prediction ... Boris will say “now is not the time” for another referendum in Scotland.

Probably but this is almost the perfect result for the SNP to push for one again.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36020157)

When you look at a colour coded map of the results, the Labour seats appear in clumps.

That always happens. Labour win urban areas, Tories rural ones.

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The Scots really need a dose of reality. They're running an 8% deficit(that includes oil revenues). The EU limit is 3%. They can't be allowed to continue to hold the English to ransom and get unfair funding levels.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36020058)

is there a mandate for Corbyn to remain leader of the Labour Party, on those numbers?

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Is it also a mandate for another Scottish devolution vote?

I don't believe so, more an emphasis of how much Scotland wanted to remain in the EU

The only good thing to come out of this election is that Swinson and Corbyn are gone (or will be in the latter case)

Brexit will now be delivered and i hope that it's the land of positives that was promised.

Because whilst myself and my wife will be OK regardless of what happens.I will not give two hoots for those that suffer if it doesn't, they voted for it. IF it all goes wrong they can suffer the consequences and their complaints will fall i suspect on many deaf ears.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36020166)

Not everyone up here wants Independence.

I sick and fed up with all the division and wish it would all just go away.

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36020166)

55% of us voted for unionist parties last night. Despite the gales of hot air coming out of Nicola Sturgeon, nothing very much has changed.

After the 2014 referendum there was a nationalist spasm in Scottish politics and the Nats ended up with 56 seats. That clearly over corrected itself in 2017, and they lost around 20. Now they’ve got roughly half of those back, but don’t let the first past the post system or the distribution of those votes fool you. A referendum is a one person, one vote, across the whole country, no constituencies. So the actual proportion of votes for the different parties last night tells us something useful and shouldn’t be ignored.

Boris is not going to grant a section 30 order while he’s focused on Brexit. He has no reason to do so. Sturgeon knows this. She will be especially shrill over the coming months but really, it is now all about the 2010 Holyrood election. If they can get re-elected with an unambiguous manifesto commitment to another referendum (I.e. not one caveated with comments about significant political changes) then it will be hard to say no. I could tolerate (just about) a second referendum in 2024. Quebec held a second one a decade on, the separatists there lost it, very narrowly, but the result was the effective death of the separatist movement as an effective political force. That I think is what we have to aim for in Scotland now, assuming of course the SNP aren’t unseated in 2021 - their domestic record on the big devolved ministries in health, education and policing are all absolutely dire, and of course next year there is going to be a very embarrassing trial of their former leader on some pretty lurid charges.

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36020176)

55% of us voted for unionist parties last night. Despite the gales of hot air coming out of Nicola Sturgeon, nothing very much has changed.

After the 2014 referendum there was a nationalist spasm in Scottish politics and the Nats ended up with 56 seats. That clearly over corrected itself in 2017, and they lost around 20. Now they’ve got roughly half of those back, but don’t let the first past the post system or the distribution of those votes fool you. A referendum is a one person, one vote, across the whole country, no constituencies. So the actual proportion of votes for the different parties last night tells us something useful and shouldn’t be ignored.

Boris is not going to grant a section 30 order while he’s focused on Brexit. He has no reason to do so. Sturgeon knows this. She will be especially shrill over the coming months but really, it is now all about the 2010 Holyrood election. If they can get re-elected with an unambiguous manifesto commitment to another referendum (I.e. not one caveated with comments about significant political changes) then it will be hard to say no. I could tolerate (just about) a second referendum in 2024. Quebec held a second one a decade on, the separatists there lost it, very narrowly, but the result was the effective death of the separatist movement as an effective political force. That I think is what we have to aim for in Scotland now, assuming of course the SNP aren’t unseated in 2021 - their domestic record on the big devolved ministries in health, education and policing are all absolutely dire, and of course next year there is going to be a very embarrassing trial of their former leader on some pretty lurid charges.

She'll follow the yellow brick road but will be foiled by the wizard of Bozz;)

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Small point but the Exit poll was right and so was the overall polling going into the election.

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Great to see all the party hoppers lose their jobs and income.

They did say Brexit would cost jobs......

Maybe one thing that could be introduced is a mandatory by election if you change party.

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36020193)

Great to see all the party hoppers lose their jobs and income.

They did say Brexit would cost jobs......

Maybe one thing that could be introduced is a mandatory by election if you change party.

Gets my vote.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36020057)

Swinson from Parliament too: Looks like the SNP will win her seat

Another great birthday present

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I lasted until 1:40am.

woke up one happy person.

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36020193)

Great to see all the party hoppers lose their jobs and income.

They did say Brexit would cost jobs......

Maybe one thing that could be introduced is a mandatory by election if you change party.

Agreed

Meanwhile*, over at Momentum/JC4PM...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...6&d=1576240361

h/t to @gariusl

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Job losses coming thick and fast for those who tried to stop Brexit...

....but this man needs a new job
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1576240172

:rofl:

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THIS made me smile :D

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36020204)

THIS made me smile :D

I like this one it proves she's a true lefty
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tion-vote-2019

Mathematically she had a 60/60 chance of getting it right.