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Mick 09-12-2019 21:51
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36019741)
More to the point who in the Tory party planted the lies? The least the inept reporters can do is name and shame the sources (bet one of their initials is DC...).

All to try and deflect from pictures of a kid getting treatment for pneumonia on a hospital floor, and Boris not wanting to know about it. A sick party and anyone that votes for them isn't much better.
You mean the staged picture of what appears to be a kid on the floor, I know plenty of nurses have come out attacking this picture saying no nurse would ever put a kid on the floor under any circumstances.

Also, the last part of your post - You have got no right to say that so you better retract that statement Mr K or it will be your last contribution to this thread, sick of your attitude on here. :mad:

Damien 09-12-2019 21:57
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Is there any evidence to suggest the photo was staged? It was his mother who posted it and wasn't happy with the wide circulation of the photo.

Mick 09-12-2019 22:09
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36019744)
Is there any evidence to suggest the photo was staged? It was his mother who posted it and wasn't happy with the wide circulation of the photo.
Well for a start it looks like the kid is actually in a bay, bed to the right of him, cupboard to the left. Since when did patients share bays?

Also, why did she give it to the Anti-Tory Daily Mirror?

No decent parent has a supposedly sick child, put on the floor, a decent parent would hold them on their lap, the photo looks staged, pure and simple for pure Labour bullshit propaganda.

nomadking 09-12-2019 22:16
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
1) The Labour supporters were there to cause trouble.

2) Technically he WAS hit in the face by a Labour supporter, just that it seems to be accidental. Not necessarily a lie, just a lack of full communication to others of the actual events. If events are always that obvious in real time, why do football and other sports need to rely on things like VAR?

3) The incident happened because of the harassment by Labour supporters.

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A video of the incident shows Mr Chatterton gesticulating wildly with his arm accidentally striking Mr Njoku-Goodwin.
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Jack was taken into Leeds General Infirmary last week after being ill for six days, his mother told the Mirror.

His mother said he had been seen as soon as he arrived and given a bed and oxygen, but a few hours later the bed had to be given to another patient and Jack was left without one for more than four hours.
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'One of the good things about what is happening at the Leeds General is they had already identified the problems on this unit and the fact that there wasn't enough space and they have got a plan, a funded plan, to make sure – in fact they are trebling the size of the unit next year.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36019743)
You mean the staged picture of what appears to be a kid on the floor, I know plenty of nurses have come out attacking this picture saying no nurse would ever put a kid on the floor under any circumstances.

Also, the last part of your post - You have got no right to say that so you better retract that statement Mr K or it will be your last contribution to this thread, sick of your attitude on here. :mad:
The nurses didn't.
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His mother said she then made a makeshift bed for her son with coats and took the picture.

Mick 09-12-2019 22:22
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36019748)
1) The Labour supporters were there to cause trouble.

2) Technically he WAS hit in the face by a Labour supporter, just that it seems to be accidental. Not necessarily a lie, just a lack of full communication to others of the actual events. If events are always that obvious in real time, why do football and other sports need to rely on things like VAR?

3) The incident happened because of the harassment by Labour supporters.



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The nurses didn't.
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Joseph
@jsphfstr89
I work in a very busy London A+E. We don’t let anybody lie on the floor as a general rule let alone a child with an o2 mask. Even if it is busy you prioritise beds for those that need them. This is sick @UKLabour propaganda.

You might ask why we don’t let people lie on the floor?
1) infection control: the floor is filthy.
2) health and safety: A&E is busy with heavy trolleys moving everywhere all the time. Also a person on the floor is a trip hazard and impedes emergency response to other pts.

The Nurse in charge of that child should be ashamed. The child should’ve (at the very least) been given a chair.

OLD BOY 09-12-2019 22:27
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
It's called 'weaponising the NHS', I believe.

Let us not forget that sick patients were drinking water out of vases under Labour, and rather than address it, Labour tried to bury bad news.

Labour is not the panacea they claim to be where the NHS is concerned.

Mick 09-12-2019 22:40
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36019753)
It's called 'weaponising the NHS', I believe.

Let us not forget that sick patients were drinking water out of vases under Labour, and rather than address it, Labour tried to bury bad news.

Labour is not the panacea they claim to be where the NHS is concerned.
One only has to look at the dire NHS issues in Wales, today, which is run by Labour.

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anthea
@glasterlaw1
I worked as a nurse for 20years and no nurse would let a 4 yr old sick child lie on the floor...Labour propaganda

Damien 09-12-2019 22:49
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
I can see the grounds for suspicion but I don't think Twitter accounts are evidence of much.

papa smurf 09-12-2019 22:53
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36019745)
Well for a start it looks like the kid is actually in a bay, bed to the right of him, cupboard to the left. Since when did patients share bays?

Also, why did she give it to the Anti-Tory Daily Mirror?

No decent parent has a supposedly sick child, put on the floor, a decent parent would hold them on their lap, the photo looks staged, pure and simple for pure Labour bullshit propaganda.
This reminds me of when jezza was photographed sitting on the floor of a train that was supposed to be standing room only,and turned out to be an almost empty train and nothing but a stunt.

Mick 09-12-2019 22:54
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36019760)
I can see the grounds for suspicion but I don't think Twitter accounts are evidence of much.
Neither is a series of photographs that can be concocted to appear as bad than they actually are.

Testimonials of professional NHS Staff should be.

Here is another....

https://twitter.com/peter25674/statu...54883810758658

nomadking 09-12-2019 22:56
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36019760)
I can see the grounds for suspicion but I don't think Twitter accounts are evidence of much.
How likely is it that nurses would allow somebody to lie on the floor?:rolleyes:
His mother put him there, and then just happened to take a photo and sent it to the press.

Hugh 09-12-2019 22:59
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36019763)
How likely is it that nurses would allow somebody to lie on the floor?:rolleyes:
His mother put him there, and then just happened to take a photo and sent it to the press.
The Chief Medical Officer at the LGI must be mistaken, then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50713236

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Dr Yvette Oade, chief medical officer at Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust, said: "Our hospitals are extremely busy at the moment and we are very sorry that Jack's family had a long wait in our Emergency Department."
She added: "We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available in the treatment room, and no bed. This falls below our usual high standards, and for this we would like to sincerely apologise to Jack and his family."

papa smurf 09-12-2019 23:02
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36019766)
The Chief Medical Officer at the LGI must be mistaken, then?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50713236
So his mother must have put him on the floor if a seat was provided.

Pierre 09-12-2019 23:09
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Regardless, as unfortunate the situation, using it for a stunt, is just using it for a stunt.

There are bad stories and photos to be has for any PM or wannabe PM.

How many photos of dead Iraqi children could we have shown Blair?

We could shove photos of children in abject poverty in the face of any of the last 6 or more PM’s

It smacks of desperation. God I Hope Labour lose, and lose big.

Hugh 09-12-2019 23:09
Re: Election 2019 - Week 5
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36019767)
So his mother must have put him on the floor if a seat was provided.
Hard to lay down and sleep on a chair...

https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/le...-four-17385357

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Jack and his worried mum were ‘blue-lighted’ to Leeds General Infirmary after she returned to the doctors as Jack had not improved.

He was seen “very quickly” and given a bed and oxygen in A&E.

A few hours later she was told the bed was needed for another patient.

“A doctor rushed in and said they needed Jack’s bed and literally within a minute all of his stuff was pulled out of the bed," she said.

"The doctor unplugged his oxygen, picked him up and moved us into what I would describe as a cupboard.

"They call it a treatment room. It was a room without a bed."

"He kept asking to lay down. He was without a bed for four-and-a-half hours.

“He needed to go to sleep and he needed to lay down. He started falling asleep and he ended up going to sleep on a pile of coats.

“There was no bed for him in A&E and there was no bed for him on the ward, so he just had to sleep on the floor.

“The room was full of medical supplies. Doctors and nurses were coming in constantly saying ‘sorry, can I just take this, can I just take that.

“I don’t have any issues with the doctors and the nurses, they were really lovely people and I want to make that clear.

“I was just feeling despair. He was so ill and I didn’t know why he was ill.

"I thought if he has got pneumonia, laying on a cold floor is not going to do him any good. He was so grey, he looked so ill.”


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