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tweetiepooh 19-01-2018 15:09

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
But if I complain about the use of "Jesus" as a swear word it would be ignored as common usage so why not show material that uses "offensive phrasing" because it is in use (or was). Just because it's used doesn't mean that the makers agree with the usage.

There is also a difference between racist and racial that depends a lot on the intent but the law as stands is on how the "listener" perceives the usage. This is what's led to many people finding themselves in hot water because some comment is felt to be "hate speech". Even innocent comments can be said to be hateful because someone hearing is in some unique circumstance that possibly the speaker isn't aware of.

theone2k10 19-01-2018 16:10

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
I'm just waiting for some idiot to issue a complaint about New Zealand rugby team being call the All Blacks.

Mr K 19-01-2018 19:46

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TP is the most inoffensive of channels, showing films your granny went to see. Tbh theres much more violence bad language in the soaps each night. They probably have limited resources to check for every potentially offensive word. If we don't want the giants like Sky to dominate everything, these smaller channels need to be encouraged, otherwise we'll just end up with no choice.

OLD BOY 19-01-2018 22:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35933161)
TP is the most inoffensive of channels, showing films your granny went to see. Tbh theres much more violence bad language in the soaps each night. They probably have limited resources to check for every potentially offensive word. If we don't want the giants like Sky to dominate everything, these smaller channels need to be encouraged, otherwise we'll just end up with no choice.

For once, Mr K, we seem to agree!

multiskilled 19-01-2018 23:53

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I think the reason OFCOM got involved is contained in the very first sentence, "It follows the pre-watershed broadcast." I Suspect if it had have been after nothing would have happened.

OLD BOY 20-01-2018 01:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35933190)
I think the reason OFCOM got involved is contained in the very first sentence, "It follows the pre-watershed broadcast." I Suspect if it had have been after nothing would have happened.

Fair enough, but when I was a teenager, I watched these programmes without censorship.

Is the snowflake generation unable to function without this protective mechanism in place?

Bless!

RichardCoulter 20-01-2018 01:52

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35933094)
Or..

It could be they don’t feel the need to show ‘offensive’ material ‘that was acceptable and broadcast years ago’, or they don’t think there is a market for it - those option also exist...

Ofcom was founded in 2003.

Or it could be that they are taking the easy option and just not showing archive material for fear of getting into trouble (as TP have found out).

multiskilled 24-01-2018 01:05

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35933192)
Fair enough, but when I was a teenager, I watched these programmes without censorship.

Is the snowflake generation unable to function without this protective mechanism in place?

Bless!

The watershed was also in place when you were a teenager. As we don't know what time the programme was actually transmitted other than it was pre watershed, it could have been viewed by children younger than their teens.

Also the terms objected to are not in common use these these days is there any point in adding them to the playground lexicon.

RichardCoulter 24-01-2018 01:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by multiskilled (Post 35933646)
The watershed was also in place when you were a teenager. As we don't know what time the programme was actually transmitted other than it was pre watershed, it could have been viewed by children younger than their teens.

Also the terms objected to are not in common use these these days is there any point in adding them to the playground lexicon.

The second incident (where the word 'Sambo' was used) was broadcast at 15:25 on 13/9/17.

denphone 24-01-2018 05:19

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35933647)
The second incident (where the word 'Sambo' was used) was broadcast at 15:25 on 13/9/17.

As multiskilled states this word was used far more 40 years ago as l certainly know as most of our family and l were called it on a pretty regular basis along with many other names but generally we have come a long way since then thankfully.

Hugh 24-01-2018 17:13

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35933193)
Or it could be that they are taking the easy option and just not showing archive material for fear of getting into trouble (as TP have found out).

We’ll never know...

Arthurgray50@blu 24-01-2018 23:05

Re: Talking Pictures in trouble again for broadcasting words offensive to black peopl
 
I just wish these programmes would return
Till Death us do Part
Love thy neighbour
Etc etc

Its about time the PC brigade got off the fence and let life continue as it should
I have been called some really offensive words such as W**** H**** by various people - l am not allowed to mention who they are. As this is how stupid the system is now getting.

I am just waiting for someone to be taken top court over an offensive remark.

We are talking about telly from the past, which is extremely popular today.

So please get a life.

RichardCoulter 24-01-2018 23:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35933653)
As multiskilled states this word was used far more 40 years ago as l certainly know as most of our family and l were called it on a pretty regular basis along with many other names but generally we have come a long way since then thankfully.

As I child I seldom heard the word, children were more likely to call each other white honkey or black honkey after hearing it on Love Thy Neighbour.

It must have been particularly hard for your brother at this time when it was deemed socially acceptable to make insulting remarks.

denphone 25-01-2018 05:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35933817)
As I child I seldom heard the word, children were more likely to call each other white honkey or black honkey after hearing it on Love Thy Neighbour.

It must have been particularly hard for your brother at this time when it was deemed socially acceptable to make insulting remarks.

Once you have been called those names a few times our family generally just ignored it and just rose above it Richard and got on with our lives.

Hugh 25-01-2018 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35933816)
I just wish these programmes would return
Till Death us do Part
Love thy neighbour
Etc etc

Its about time the PC brigade got off the fence and let life continue as it should
I have been called some really offensive words such as W**** H**** by various people - l am not allowed to mention who they are. As this is how stupid the system is now getting.

I am just waiting for someone to be taken top court over an offensive remark.

We are talking about telly from the past, which is extremely popular today.

So please get a life.

You were called a Welly Hoyer? I didn't realise you did Welly Hoying?

Almost as bad as being accused of Morris Dancing... ;)


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