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You sure about that as some of the other makes are crap IMO as you get what you pay for l always say.

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No, you're wrong, he's wrong, everyone who disagrees is wrong. The EU is going from strength to strength according to Juncker and his ilk and it's patently obvious. There are no structural problems, no skeletons in the EU cupboard, no potential conflict with Russia. We just need to realise that it's all tickety boo over there and we'd be mad not to stay part of the Brussels fan club. All the problems lie within the UK and which will suffer forever more when we leave their warm, cuddly, generous embrace. Our only hope of salvation is the EU...

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Usually said by those that have overpaid for a brand name ;)

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I wouldn't take any notice of that because Bosch, Miele and Siemens aren't overpriced brand names... ;)

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What is your definition of overpaying Mr K?.;)

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Well anything that is the same as another product but has a different name and costs more Den ! ;)

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I trust a successful billionaire who knows the world markets better than you do, I would think it was his duty to sustain his business entity. Besides, if he says Europe trade is in decline, he would know that if he is doing better trade with the Far East. 80 to 90 % is a massive difference to just 12% within the EU.

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They are not the same. The technology within them is patent protected and Dyson has robustly defended his products from being copied.

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I realise this is gradually moving in a non Brexit discussion direction, but seeing as we're discussing hoovers, my experience of (two) Dysons has not been good and you don't get what you pay for with Dyson. Great for the first few months but then you have to take the ruddy complicated things apart on a regular basis to remove all sorts of junk wedged inside them to get any semblance of performance.

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Can only say as i find Mick. Had a Dyson, it broke down just out of warranty. Bought a Vax for the fraction of the price, cleans better and has lasted years.

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I see where it is going. Hardline remainers just cannot get behind brexit if they died trying. So they then attempt to mock Dyson products to some how discredit his view on Brexit. Not going to work with me. Dyson is an intelligent guy. A successful entrepreneur.

Bottom line is. We will be better out.

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I look forward to the link and like others will maintain my healhy sceptical view until such a time.
The most important thing for the UK is service industries which account for 80% of our exports. These require common standards and freedom of movement helps too. Tariffs are less important. Hence this is a key predicament that the UK faces post-Brexit which is currently sitting in David Davis's too-difficult pile.

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Strange because my vax cleaner broke within a few times of using it, it got took right back. Each to their own I guess. None of this talk on product quality nullifies Dysons views on world trade and I said I trust his views on world trade over yours any day.

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It's got zero to do with Brexit from my perspective ! I didn't start the hoover debate.
I'm just stating my own experience with his hoovers as others had, if you think i have an agenda on this issue then you're getting a bit touchy.
I don't like Vax hoovers for the same reason either and I have no idea what allegiance "Mr Vax" has.

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Can we have a separate vacuum cleaner thread ? There are many issues to discuss, what's wrong with a dustpan and broom for example ? ;)

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I did not bring 'hoovers' in to the debate. I brought Sir James Dyson views on Brexit in to this debate. I think it was Mr K who then started his assault on his actual Hoovers. ;)

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I prefer the old dust pan and still use them, given I don't have carpets downstairs.