Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35898941)

Can you do that with chrome ?

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35898657)

One possible way to mitigate this type of attack would be for emails to be opened in a sandbox.

The cost for businesses to implement throughout their network could be prohibitive.

A back-up on the other hand costs a damn site less. Any Hospitals down today???

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35899069)

Problems caused by the fact that although the bank's customer facing hardware and software is relatively new, it's using backend servers that were installed in the 80s, or in some cases, the 70s.

Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35899069)

Backups may or may not be helpful. If the trojan hit several weeks ago, and has been silently encrypting/decrypting the files, then any backups are likely to be encrypted. Especially if the machines running the backups are vulnerable.



The NHS, like any large organisation, has old and new hardware. When I worked for my old hospital (back in the early 90s), most of the administration was done on PCs of various vintages, but the patient records were only available on terminals that had been installed in the 70s. Terminals that I am told were in use until the early 2000s when the hospital was demolished and replaced with a state of the art new one. Now, we do have a system in place where things like X rays are available electronically, and our GP (at least) is registered with the NHS Epatient system, so we can book appointments and request repeat prescriptions through the web, iPhone or Android app.

It's not just public organisations that suffer it. Look at the problems experienced by customers of certain banks. Problems caused by the fact that although the bank's customer facing hardware and software is relatively new, it's using backend servers that were installed in the 80s, or in some cases, the 70s.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 35899155)

On the contrary it's the move away from mainframes running UNIX to networked PC's running Windows that has made our infrastructure so vulnerable.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35899070)

Problem is IT is seen as a 'back office function', and what little money going the politicians and public have demanded to go to the front line (nurses/drs/medicines). The frontline isn't any good with out the services to support it . It all comes back to money, which ever way it tries to be spun. Blaming poor management won't wash, if that was wholly the reason, why can't the NHS attract/afford decent managers ?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35899843)

Yes, but this really isn't good enough. The money needs to be apportioned appropriately between direct services and administration. The administration needs to be efficient and not just bolster the bureaucracy. The trouble is, everyone gets caught up in sound bites and no-one is tacking the actual problem. The direct services (nurses, doctors, etc) all rely on an efficient administration which will provide them with systems, policies and equipment they need and so squeezing administration is not necessarily going to improve the lot of the medical staff.

The administration needs to be properly focussed on the needs of the staff providing direct services instead of getting hung up on the kind of nonsense they come up with such as unnecessary reorganisations that make no real difference to the provision of services.

It is really quite worrying that a huge layer of bureaucracy (the Primary Care Trusts) have been abolished with no discernable impact on the provision of services.

Seriously, the NHS does not need an ever increasing amount of money, it needs a generous dose of efficiency in the way it is managed.

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35905329)

Most likely idiots again opening attachments from sources they don't know.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35905369)

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