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denphone 23-03-2017 20:53

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35891471)
He actually just stated its not the greatest city, not that it wasnt a great city ;)

On that point, I happen to agree with him as such (just not his idiotic way of posting it :dozey:).

Personally, I dislike London, and avoid it as much as possible.

Each to their own Paul as we just love all the historic things you can see in London along with a few other things as if we all had the same tastes in life then life would be rather boring.

Damien 23-03-2017 21:01

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If London is the greatest city in the world is obviously subjective but objectively it's up there. It's one of the world's iconic cities. One of the most commercially booming cities. A city with 2000 years of history. A city that has the West End, the globe and the British Museum.

London scores high on everything you would want in a city: history, business and culture. Most cities score high on only two of those. Most historical cities do not have London's success in finance and technology and most modern cities in the Americas have London's history.

Also there is a very good donut shop just off Berwick Street.

dilli-theclaw 23-03-2017 21:03

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It's funny, now that I can't see the crowds I love London, couldn't stand it before.

adzii_nufc 23-03-2017 21:43

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35891475)
If London is the greatest city in the world is obviously subjective but objectively it's up there. It's one of the world's iconic cities. One of the most commercially booming cities. A city with 2000 years of history. A city that has the West End, the globe and the British Museum.

London scores high on everything you would want in a city: history, business and culture. Most cities score high on only two of those. Most historical cities do not have London's success in finance and technology and most modern cities in the Americas have London's history.

Also there is a very good donut shop just off Berwick Street.

Tasty little cafe at the end of baker street hidden in the basement beside Madame Tussauds, does great burgers. :D

I love London, likely because I don't have to live there or even near it for that matter, everything feels tiny back home after I've had my yearly visit.

Ramrod 23-03-2017 22:55

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Italy: ‘North African’ Arrested After Driving at Police, Stabbing Officer
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A “North African” migrant has attempted to ram police with a car in a southern Italian town Wednesday, before attacking and injuring an officer with a knife.

ianch99 23-03-2017 23:38

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As Osem has said, the Muslim Council of Britain have come out strongly in condemning this outrage. There have also been Muslims gathering in Trafalgar square showing support for the families of those killed and injured.

There has also been stories of Muslim groups raising money for victims of the terror attack.

What will be very telling is how much coverage and prominance the right of centre press give these stories. Their responses will give us profound insight to their real agenda .. let's wait and see ..

I am looking at the express, mail and telegraph front pages (on-line) and I see no mention of these stories .. yet ..

Qtx 23-03-2017 23:38

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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35891438)
The over the top media frenzy is getting somewhat cringe worthy now. And playing right into the terrorists hands.

That as well as the social media frenzy. Now there will be #PrayForLondon #MuslimsAgainstExtremism type stuff along with all the various groups using it as proof of x, y and z.

With no disrespect to anyone that died in this incident and their friends and family, but the that dustbin lorry driver who just collapsed at the wheel in Glasgow a year or two ago, run down and killed more guys than the mentally unstable guy from yesterdays. Obviously there is a difference between intentional and unintentional but the news coverage difference worlds apart. It's as if the end of the world is nigh going by current coverage.

That is ignoring the other mass killings that happen daily across the world, some even at the hands of our bombs. It makes sense we are more sensitive to stuff on our own doorstep but making the news dominated by it and having every tom dick and harry on tv condemning it and commenting on it makes the event seem bigger than it is. Especially in the eyes of those who might celebrate such an incident...

Some perspective is needed sometimes.

Gary L 24-03-2017 00:01

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35891495)
With no disrespect to anyone that died in this incident and their friends and family, but the that dustbin lorry driver who just collapsed at the wheel in Glasgow a year or two ago, run down and killed more guys than the mentally unstable guy from yesterdays. Obviously there is a difference between intentional and unintentional but the news coverage difference worlds apart. It's as if the end of the world is nigh going by current coverage.

That is ignoring the other mass killings that happen daily across the world, some even at the hands of our bombs. It makes sense we are more sensitive to stuff on our own doorstep but making the news dominated by it and having every tom dick and harry on tv condemning it and commenting on it makes the event seem bigger than it is. Especially in the eyes of those who might celebrate such an incident...

Some perspective is needed sometimes.

It's the way us British are. we are actually pathetic.
this has happened and we will make damn sure that the whole world knows just how pathetic and dramatic we are.

Chris 24-03-2017 00:04

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35891497)
It's the way us British are. we are actually pathetic.
this has happened and we will make damn sure that the whole world knows just how pathetic and dramatic we are.

I think I preferred this place without your constant immature mewling.

Gary L 24-03-2017 00:07

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35891499)
I think I preferred this place without your constant immature mewling.

Why does everyone post off topic comments when I say something?

ianch99 24-03-2017 00:12

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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35891501)
Why does everyone post off topic comments when I say something?

Well don't say anything then ;)

Gary L 24-03-2017 00:17

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35891502)
Well don't say anything then ;)

I did. for a while :)

adzii_nufc 24-03-2017 08:55

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Here comes the share if you think the burqa should be banned Facebook tripe. I must have have missed the part where he attacked Parliament as a drag queen.

Ramrod 24-03-2017 09:25

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35891494)
As Osem has said, the Muslim Council of Britain have come out strongly in condemning this outrage. There have also been Muslims gathering in Trafalgar square showing support for the families of those killed and injured.

There have also been online reports of many muslims celebrating the attack, and other muslims berating them for that.

Damien 24-03-2017 09:32

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Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35891495)
That as well as the social media frenzy. Now there will be #PrayForLondon #MuslimsAgainstExtremism type stuff along with all the various groups using it as proof of x, y and z.

With no disrespect to anyone that died in this incident and their friends and family, but the that dustbin lorry driver who just collapsed at the wheel in Glasgow a year or two ago, run down and killed more guys than the mentally unstable guy from yesterdays. Obviously there is a difference between intentional and unintentional but the news coverage difference worlds apart. It's as if the end of the world is nigh going by current coverage.

That is ignoring the other mass killings that happen daily across the world, some even at the hands of our bombs. It makes sense we are more sensitive to stuff on our own doorstep but making the news dominated by it and having every tom dick and harry on tv condemning it and commenting on it makes the event seem bigger than it is. Especially in the eyes of those who might celebrate such an incident...

Some perspective is needed sometimes.

The reaction hasn't been that over the top. On the day they closed Westminster but the rest of London functioned normally, people were swarming about Soho, Convent Garden, Victoria and Leicester Square without concern. The tube closed Westminster station but ran a normal service. Rush hour was no different.

The next day Parliament ran a normal session expect for a brief series of statements about the attack. So far there appears to be little demand for a policy reaction.

The press is covering it a lot obviously but there is a difference, as you pointed out, between a terrible accident and an intentional killing. The location also amplifies the story, he attacked Parliament. You also pointed out why the daily killings internationally aren't as big a story, they're not happening here. Our interests and emotions aren't logical.

I agree with the action on social media being over the top. People around London seemed to think they were caught up in a bigger event than it was but that's social media for you.

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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35891520)
There have also been online reports of many muslims celebrating the attack, and other muslims berating them for that.

You can find the worst of any group on the internet. There were people celebrating Jo Cox's murder if you were willing to search for it. The internet completely distorts the power and scale of hateful groups, people that would have otherwise been confined to some log cabin in Idaho are now given a platform to broadcast to the world.


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