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denphone 05-07-2016 16:12

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
But he is not liked by the vast majority of his own party and even less liked by the public so to me that is very much a recipe for disaster and in my humble view they have to go for Teresa May to be their leader.

martyh 05-07-2016 16:17

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 35848226)
The mandate is with a brexiteer; my spidey sense tells me that a substantial number of 17.4m Leavers will expect nothing less old chap ;).

I agree ,and i want Gove ,i don't care how many Tory prima donnas he's stabbed in the back ..........but i think we'll end up with T May

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35848227)
But he is not liked by the vast majority of his own party and even less liked by the public so to me that is very much a recipe for disaster and in my humble view they have to go for Teresa May to be their leader.

I think the ruthlessness he has shown towards some of the other Tories will make him a firm favourite with the public .

Kursk 05-07-2016 16:19

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35848227)
But he is not liked by the vast majority of his own party and even less liked by the public so to me that is very much a recipe for disaster and in my humble view they have to go for Teresa May to be their leader.

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35848229)
I agree ,and i want Gove ,i don't care how many Tory prima donnas he's stabbed in the back ..........but i think we'll end up with T May

You're both probably right. But it will feel like a stitch up and may (no pun intended) extend the political instability if the negotiations with the EU don't deliver. Get Gove from the Get Go!

Damien 05-07-2016 16:22

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35848229)
I agree ,and i want Gove ,i don't care how many Tory prima donnas he's stabbed in the back ..........but i think we'll end up with
I think the ruthlessness he has shown towards some of the other Tories will make him a firm favourite with the public .

His personal ratings amongst Tory members has tanked too: https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/s...77963551604736

Ultimately he has to work with those Tory MPs who he has stabbed in the bank. They only have a small majority.

denphone 05-07-2016 17:52

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
According to leave voters Teresa May is more popular with the public.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7118836.html

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Theresa May wins first round of Tory party leadership election.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-jeremy-corbyn

Damien 05-07-2016 18:00

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Gove still in it though. Leadsom + Gove + Fox will easily be enough to give him into the members round.

Ignitionnet 05-07-2016 18:09

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35848269)
Gove still in it though. Leadsom + Gove + Fox will easily be enough to give him into the members round.

Think the Govetron is relying on tactical voting by May supporters to eliminate the certifiable Leadsom.

Ignitionnet 06-07-2016 09:56

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
So this is awkward.

Appreciate in the post-truth politics world where anyone can say anything and a bunch of people will believe it it's probably not fatal but Leadsom was, simply, lying with the above.

She had no staff under her, did not run any team of investors and was not involved in Barings wind-down and sale.

http://reaction.life/was-andrea-lead...-city-hotshot/

For those who can access paywalled goodness:

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ne...-job-n80lgc2rj

Quote:

She has described her 25 years in financial services and running “enormous teams” as evidence of her suitability for the roles. The MP Bernard Jenkin has cited her senior position at “a large investment firm where she was responsible for managing hundreds of people and billions of pounds”.

During ten years at the investment fund Invesco Perpetual, from 1999 to 2009, she did not have any role in managing funds or advising clients. Despite the title “senior investment officer and head of corporate governance” she only held approval from the financial services regulator — required for any roles dealing with funds or clients — for a three-month period from December 2002 to February 2003.

The Times can also reveal that in her previous job, at an investment fund run by her brother-in-law, Mrs Leadsom was registered as the marketing director.

The MP claimed to hold the role of managing director at De Putron Fund Management Ltd from 1997 to 1999. Documents at Companies House, however, show that she was registered as its marketing director and worked there for 13 months from 1998.

Mr Stephens, who retired from Invesco Perpetual in 2014, said that Mrs Leadsom had allowed the impression to arise that “she has finance management skills and experience which qualify her for senior posts in government”.

He said that her actual job was to work on, sometimes part-time, “ ‘special projects’, mostly for the chief investment officer.

These included for example negotiating pay terms for senior fund managers. Towards the end of her time, she advised on a couple of governance issues.

As I understand it she had no one reporting to her in either role.”

The energy minister talked of her “30 years of financial experience” when suggesting before the referendum that in the event of a Leave vote “there will not be an economic impact”.
I'm definitely stretching fair use if I copy/paste any more of it so will have to stop there.

techguyone 06-07-2016 11:26

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Marvelous May & Corby wheeeeeeeeeeeee

Ignitionnet 06-07-2016 15:48

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
http://order-order.com/2016/07/06/andreas-cv-mis-lead/

Trouble with lying, difficult to keep the BS consistent.

Arthurgray50@blu 06-07-2016 21:58

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
IF May wins, she will go to the Country, almost certainly win. As Corbyn is such a ****. HE WILL LOSE.

MAGGIS TWO COMING

Ignitionnet 07-07-2016 11:13

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Yes indeed. You thought Cameron was bad watch this. :)

techguyone 07-07-2016 11:24

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
It's fast becoming really hard to find a party to vote for at all now.

Where's that 'none of the above' checkbox on the forms.

Ignitionnet 07-07-2016 11:48

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Leadsom's levels of delusion are astounding.

She makes the Project Cheer guys on here look like pessimists.

Quote:

Already we can see that the forecasts of a disaster for sterling, for equities and for interest rates have not been proven correct.

The pound is weaker, partly as a result of the markets being wrong on the result of the referendum, and partly on the expectation of further interest rate easing. But lower sterling is good for exports and makes inward investment more attractive.

It means we may import less and buy more at home.

The FTSE 100 is trading higher, and outperforming other global stock markets.
The currency bouncing along 31 year lows is apparently fine.

Now I'm no former high flying banker, but then despite her CV neither is she, however:

It's not going to cause us to import less and buy more at home with no issues - we import most of the intermediate goods we use to produce things domestically, including energy.

We are a trading, maritime nation, importing goods is what we do due to our lack of natural resources. The reason we had an empire was to secure those resources, along with a market for our finished goods.

The FTSE 100 is indeed trading higher, precisely because it's a global stock market priced in a devalued currency.

Property funds have imposed capital controls. People holding money in UK property funds cannot get at their money due to capital flight. That'll be the inward investment this woman was talking about.

The IFS prediction of 0.1% GDP contraction a quarter for 4 quarters that was derided as part of Project Fear is looking optimistic.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/07/9.png

It's no wonder Arron Banks is such a huge fan of hers. She follows his model of campaigning - clueless peddling of bovine excreta.

This is a time to take stock and steady the ship, reassuring people there is light at the other end of the tunnel, not ram head into rectum and go into full-on denial mode.

This lightweight is in no way suitable for the challenges ahead. We need someone who can take the rough with the smooth, not someone whose primary management strategy is ignorance and who confuses conviction and principles with denial.

denphone 07-07-2016 12:15

Re: Political leaders challenge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techguyone (Post 35848588)
It's fast becoming really hard to find a party to vote for at all now.

Where's that 'none of the above' checkbox on the forms.

Indeed l have never known such bad choices since l first started voting.


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