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What a surprise.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...e-sack-eu-exit

How very presumptuous for anyone who seriously wanted this referendum to be anything other than a box ticking exercise to assume that the results of negotiations would be positive.

It looks like it's exactly as Carswell said - get a few concessions for political, rather than any practical, reasons, put the appropriate spin on them to portray them as a glorious victory and go full throttle for an 'in' vote.

Pretty much the same kind of BS that was sold to the electorate over the £1.7 billion bill last year.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

He can spin it all he wants, i will be voting to leave the EU. I would hope lots more do as well.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Some will. Many will probably swallow the BS every bit as willingly as they have over the past 5 years.

Add them to the big businesses who make a ton of money out of the corporatist EU, add the idealistic who think we should all be singing around the camp fire singing the EU anthem with free movement of everything and complete open door immigration and I wouldn't rate the chances of winning too highly.

On the upside it does mean you can retire in Malta freely under the free movement rules.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Sadly, but thankfully, the public's 'nose' has been acutely attuned to BS over the last couple of decades. UKIP secured a great many votes despite their perceived lack of other policies and IMHO the referendum could well go against Cameron in spite of all the resources which will no doubt be directed at ensuring we stay in.

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I could anyway, my wife and her family are from Malta.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

It looks like Cameron's approach is not going doing too well with others in his party.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Not really,

Cameron is well known to be pro-europe.

He is on record as saying he does not want to be remembered as the prime minister that took the UK out of the EU.

He only offered the referendum to head off the UKIP vote.

But at least we will have a referendum. I am definitely in the undecided camp.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Linky

Furious back peddling as he overstepped the mark and risked damaging Tory splits. :D

Cameron will recommend we stay in the EU even if he gets no significant changes but he'll doll it up like something really good. If his lips begin to move be afraid.

Once the millions in North Africal arrive at Calais having been ferried across the med by the royal navy...

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

The best time for a referendum is when the above reaches such a peak even the hardened Liberals who would allow anyone and his brother in will start complaining enough is enough. Maybe around summer next year ;)

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

There is never a limit for them, so you'll be holding off until hell freezes over for that one.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

It must go ahead . I will be voting NO.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

They should sack him.

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

Well, if you can't get him voted out...... ;)

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

You won't like it there, full of immigrants, porous borders

re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
 

It will come sooner than you think.
you'll be sitting there eating your sausage, egg and beans. and on the TV there will be 'Breaking News - Cameron Ousted Out!'

it will happen. believe me.