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As long as they were imprisoned there would be the real risk of hostage-taking for an exchange.

Muslims have a very long history of hostage-taking AFAIK.

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Which ISIS have been doing anyway irrespective of what we do. They hate us either way so we might as well honour our own values rather than theirs.

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How many were successful in getting released from Gitmo that way?

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:clap:

"If you're not 100% with us then you're 100% against us".

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we currently have about 12,000 Muslim prisoners in this country ,i don't remember the last time hostages where taken to try to secure their release

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How many of them are terrorists ?

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around a hundred

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:clap:

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Why would it? You said that they would welcome death.

I say fine, give them what they want then.

I'm not advocating the death of innocents.

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Hang on.Let's be careful about the language we use to describe those who committed this crime and that which we use in connection with those who are of the Muslim faith but are not terrorists of any sort.

As Stephen Fry has said in the past the nazis used certain words to dehumanise Jews and others they regarded as inferior so as to justify the final solution..Let' not start talking that way about people who will be just as horrified as we are about these particular attacks.

As Damien says let us hold to OUR values despite what certain factions try to do to make us abandon those values.

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I posted a lengthy list of research on muslim views about terrorism. It seems that a good number of them won't be particularly horrified.

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I personally don't want to dehumanize anyone. I just don't want to ignore a potential enemy within....

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Three Suspects Arrested in Deadly Charlie Hebdo Shooting
Don't know how true this is.....

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Because we would run the risk of them becoming martyrs and symbols for others to follow, not much symbolism rotting in a cell till the end of days. I'm surprised you'd advocate giving then what they want and thereby rewarding them for their atrocities, I'd rather punish them personally

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I don't really like our front pages tomorrow. Disappointing. Most of them all have a image of the police officer moments before he was shot. Not only is it tasteless but it's the wrong message to send. The best ones are either in Germany where they've reprinted the cartoons, France where they've cleared the front page to display a message of support, or 'The National' in Scotland which is displaying pictures of the people around Europe attending rallies.

The other British papers just went for the dramatic.

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The Independent led with a cartoon. Good for them.

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No it's not.
it's 1463.