Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632541)

That's not a bad idea but each time this subject is in the news doctors always seem to say it's their job to preserve life, not make judgement calls on eligibility or immigration status.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632538)

OK granted they are different but your chances of being right about either are exactly the same - somewhere near 'pretty low'.

No, it's because neither of us can. The difference is I'm not delusional about this 6th sense. If it was true then I'm sure more of you would be employed at Immigration where your special powers could be put to better use.

Until recently I always lived within a few miles of the Home Office. I went to school there with almost half the class not being white British. No 6th sense is needed, just more exposure to different people, both born here and abroad. If it is magic to you then so be it. It's no different to a horticulturist knowing all the different plants and noticing when new ones appear in the garden, even if most of them look almost the same. I couldn't do that but I accept others can...

I know what has been said. It has also been said David Moyes will do well at Man United, that Labour didn't ruin this country's economy, that Ed Sheeran isn't an annoying *insert insult of choice*.

Very random and like comparing chalk to cheese

Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35632540)

Rest of the world I agree and to gain asylum they have to have traveled here directly from their home nation otherwise they break asylum rules and should get deported

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632541)

That's not a bad idea but each time this subject is in the news doctors always seem to say it's their job to preserve life, not make judgement calls on eligibility or immigration status.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35632551)

A&E is a different kettle of fish. Anyone in a life or death situation should get help without worry of immigration status.

Desk staff are the ones who should be checking immigration status for other hospital or GP treatment, not GP's.

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35632548)

Until recently I always lived within a few miles of the Home Office. I went to school there with almost half the class not being white British. No 6th sense is needed, just more exposure to different people, both born here and abroad. If it is magic to you then so be it. It's no different to a horticulturist knowing all the different plants and noticing when new ones appear in the garden, even if most of them look almost the same. I couldn't do that but I accept others can...

Originally Posted by Qtx (Post 35632548)

Very random and like comparing chalk to cheese

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632541)

That's not a bad idea but each time this subject is in the news doctors always seem to say it's their job to preserve life, not make judgement calls on eligibility or immigration status.

Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35632550)

Agreed too many travel through many countries that can offer asylum but strangely they want to come hear, curious when there's so much unemployment in the UK.

Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35632554)

Perhaps they should remember who is paying their salary and if the rules say they have to do it then they can always go private and not rely upon the very generous salary and pension they get from the NHS.

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35632557)

I think what they mean is they studied for 7+ in medicine, not immigration criteria.

Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35632559)

Which brings me back to post 74

Originally Posted by Nidge41 (Post 35632558)

They should be made to pay end of. If we went to Poland we'd have to pay for healthcare.

Originally Posted by 007stuart (Post 35632539)

Perhaps all UK Citizens should either hold a Passport or Identity Card to prove their eligibility for State Benefits or NHS Treatment. Immigrants from the EU should only be entitled to the level of State Benefits or Health Treatment they would receive in their own country. For the rest of the world they must hold Health insurance and for eligibility for State Benefits, nothing. Unless they have been granted full asylum.

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35632566)

That's not strictly true because if you go over there to live but do not work or claim any UK benefits then you can apply for an E106 which entitles you for up to 30 months of free healthcare courtesy of Her Maj.

Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35632566)

That's not strictly true because if you go over there to live but do not work or claim any UK benefits then you can apply for an E106 which entitles you for up to 30 months of free healthcare courtesy of Her Maj.