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Funny,I thought exactly the same thing... here is a business model that doesn't work,so he expects the public to make up for it?? :rolleyes:

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and the difference that makes is? IDS spouted crap and has been pulled up on it its irrelevant who did

oh and incidentally he is trying very hard you string up the scroungers lot should be praising him

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see blinkered that in itself proves my point all along. You worked hard to get out of that situation before this is today a totally different climate. Only those in the position today knows what it is like today I know you have worked hard and still do and are not comfortable as it were and I do respect that side of it just not your political viewpoint on this issue

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What's wrong with the current system is that it's become a lifestyle choice for too many people. That's not good for UK PLC and it's certainly not good for those who really need support and have no other choices because resources which could and should be made available to them are being directed at people who don't deserve them.

Yes it is harsh and yes it will involve hurting people (including my youngest) who haven't done anything wrong but IMHO it's the only way to get back to a system in which welfare is there as a back-up for those in genuine need and not a means by which some people can drift through their lives and go on to bring up their children expecting others to support them in turn.

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Since all the threads have now been merged i will mention this little snippet quoted on the Jeremy Vine show today .
When LABOUR in 2008-9 decided to reassess everyone on disability payments the result was astounding .800,000 people decided not to go for the medical and simply ended their claims .Now if that figure is true it is eye watering ,if it has been exaggerated by 50% it is still terrible and shows how many where allowed to claim benefits falsely ,which is probably why doctors where removed from making the decision as to whether someone was fit to work or not .
Now i have to go back to work and earn some benefits for someone so i'll let someone else find the official figures to back up Edwina Curries statement.

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it's good he's trying,but what good is it if his 'business' can't support him and he relies on benefits anyway? Time to do something else,really...

also,why should IDS prove to anyone he can live on benefits... he's done it before and has worked himself to the top,good for him I say. But I guess in Britain AD 2013 it's string up the well-to-do... ;)

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that I do not contest but the governments propaganda is pushing the worker to believe its all down to the unemployed

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no less than the string up the claimant crew...

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well,trying to bring the benefits system back to it's intended purpose,which is supporting the needy,is a far cry from a call to string up the claimants.
This is painful but it needs to be done for the sake of the country and its future. Far too many people rely on the state and it needs to stop,simple as that.

Re: Poor affected - The Rich not affected again - why?
 

Yes please and can you set it to automatically move any of Arthur's rant threads straight into it so we don't get caught out by a sneaky one. :)

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Its just been said on Sky News that IDS income per week AFTER tax is £1600 per week.

Plus he has a private car and chauffeur and probably a Protection officer. Sick.

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Envy is ugly, Arthur.

Re: Poor affected - The Rich not affected again - why?
 

A better idea would be to start your own thread and keep all your rants about Arthur in that one place.

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Yes,he's a high-ranking Member of Government and has worked hard to get there.... your point being? :dozey:

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yeah and it was Thatcher who encouraged claimants onto the sick remember her way of doctoring the unemployment figures after they drove past 3 million

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The problem is there is an entire section of the population who have never worked. While I don't think they are the majority at all, I've seen people on benefits not think twice about spending (say) a couple of hundred for a pair of trainers. I work and cannot afford that. I know people who can afford to spend that amount on trainers that have never worked. I know of people who are the second or third generation in a family who've never worked.

That has to stop.

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its public service not service yourself. No one in public service is worth that much

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still not jobs for everyone may as well employ those that want jobs first. Society and capitalism demands everyone has to have money to survive so it makes finding an answer hard cuz if you take their money away they will have to turn to crime to survive. Unless you just kill them all or put them on an island to fend for themselves perhaps?