Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

I'm a bit confused now.
is this explaining why the word Muslim was took out the title?

because he is not representative of all Muslims?

That's like saying that if a Christian did something we should take out the word Christian so people don't get the wrong idea?

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

then why this outcome? where did you get those quotes from btw?

I totally agree.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

like this thread

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...ia-eweida.html

or the Christian B&B thread

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

I reckon that if you think about it. there's a possibility that there's only 1 true Muslim in the world. all the others do something that discounts them as a true Muslim. leaving just that 1 true Muslim.

Same can be said about all religions.

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This is it.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/20...se-appeal.html

Does that mean that those particular Christians are representative of all Christians when it comes to gays?

No.
at least I don't think so.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

Have you noticed how there is so much debate in the news that is religion based and it all tends to be BAD.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

Another subject. but yes. religion is evil.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

The one quote i used was from the first link that popped up but it is basically the same as the one from the mail

As for the outcome ,i fear that the same reluctance to address 'Muslim issues' (for want of a better phrase) that occurred in Rochdale was present in the court

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

ah i read the mails links :dunce: that just proves hes a fake known by the Judge :confused:

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

Most Muslims is again awfully broad and hard to back up. Then again so is the definition of treatment of women since its arguable if society as a whole is truly equal when it comes to sexism.

You have to distinguish between members of a faith. You cannot label 1.6 billion people based on the actions of a minority who attract a disproportionate amount of attention. There are Christians in America who famously protest the funerals of solders, or children or pretty much anyone else. The fact they're Christian does matter as it's from their faith they have found such hatred. However that doesn't impact at all on all the other Christians. They're in no way responsible for their actions and we can learn nothing about all these peoples' character from those protesters. Also there has only recently been the scandal of Child Abuse in the Catholic Church! Yet most rational people wouldn't use it to claim that it is representative of 'most Christians.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

So what you're saying then, is that there's no reason why the word Muslim has to be excluded from the title?

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

What i'm getting at is that All Muslims are taught via the Koran that women are not equal (i actually believe the correct terminology is "equal but not the same").Islamic education in this country perpetuates that idea because it's in the Koran with no repercussions from mainstream society even though any state school or Christian school teaching that would be shut down so why is that allowed to continue ?as a direct result of that teaching Adil and his like take that basic Islamic teaching to the extreme with results we have seen in this thread and in Rochdale .So i think saying "Some Muslims" is about right because most if not all are taught that women are not equal to men .Fair enough some Muslims treat women worse than others but the basic idea that women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

Well let's be careful because I don't think any of us here are Islamic Scholars or even have read the Quran. I do know that often with these religious texts you can selectively quote and interpret from it to make whatever case you want. According to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Islam, it's rather a complex topic. It states that women are equal, but one must serve the other, but that only applies to marriage.

It's not as simple that the religion teaches that woman are second class citizens. As with most religious texts you can use it to make either case.

Also you didn't say some Muslims, you said most Muslims. You also agreed with a poster that Muslims want to take over the world when 'we're all dead'.

Women are not equal is prevalent in all Muslims? Well in some respects the same could be said of Christians. After all let's look at the problem with woman bishops. What about society in general? Where it's not easy for women to reach the higher reaches of our society and where they're often judged more on appearances than on merit. Women who get leered at on the street or whistled at. I think women in society can be explored a lot more and it's not a Muslim problem alone.

There is a problem in some Asian communities, predominately Islamic ones, when it comes to women as the Rochdale case showed (this case shows nothing other than one child abuser). However this doesn't represent Muslims as a whole any more than child abuse in the Catholic Church represents Catholics.

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This seems to have happened when we had that merge issue a couple of pages ago, it wasn't editorialised. Changing back now.

re: Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage
 

Personally theres no excuse, hang the bloody lot of them.

Re: Pedo escapes jail saying he did know know 13 was underage
 

Thanks, Damien.
can you just change the first know to not, now? :)

re: Muslim paedo escapes jail saying he did not know 13 was underage
 

I've read the Quran but I couldn't tell you much in detail. Either I don't remember or not much was mentioned. It was iirc women should be covered and all, shouldn't travel alone, stuff like that basically in a nutshell keeping women under the thumb. Real backwards and no compromise such as women being able to be indepentant etc. It does say heaven lays at the feet of your mother so what does that say? I don't know tbh.