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douglasross 12-06-2012 12:12
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35439196)
I keep re-reading that piece, and I just cannot understand what Bernie's talking about. There are obviously some lines to read between but I'm struggling to do so. He can't seriously think that having a potential audience of 10 million is the same as having an actual audience of 6, can he? Especially when there is very obviously a large cross over of people who are watching the BBC coverage on the Sky platform. The simple fact is that the wishes of the sponsors will always win out, which is precisely why the BBC are continuing to get good access to teams and drivers even at races they're not broadcasting live-more people see them. Until Sky are able to compete in terms of actual viewing figures I am sure that F1 will continue to remain free to air in some form or another and will just be for Sky what it always was-a way to drive subscriptions to theirsports package outside of tthe football season and to assist with migrating customers to their hd stb.
As an avid F1 fan for many years BE doesn't have to make sense to ordinary mortals the only thing that matters to him is the amount of money going to his bank account

andy_m 13-06-2012 07:17
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Agreed-and the best way to achieve that is maximum exposure for sponsor's logos. I'm confident that f1 will remain available to the channels that give it it's biggest audience.

OLD BOY 13-06-2012 20:16
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 35391129)
One issue is that Sky own both the content and the distribution. Maybe they need to be split off so that no single company (replace with whatever definition you think makes most sense) can own both.

That way you'd have a content owner/provider who would sell to whatever distributors they want to at a reasonable price.

:)
Wouldn't that mean that the BBC and ITV could no longer make their own programmes and broadcast them on their channels? Sorry, but I don't agree with that.

The answer lies with legislating in respect of exclusivity rights. As far as Sky are concerned, for example, they should be allowed EITHER:

- To buy rights to programmes or films exclusively to show on their channels, but they must make their channels available (at no more than wholesale price and in HD where available) to other platforms, OR:

- To provide channels exclusively to their platform but not to show programmes on those channels on an exclusive basis. The HBO deal would not be allowed under this provision.

Given that this country prizes competition as much as it does, it is really surprising that the likes of Sky continue to get away with these uncompetitive practices. OFCOM should be ON it. Why is it taking so long? The Government now has an opportunity to show that it is not Mr Murdoch pulling the strings.

Don't hold your breath, anybody. :rolleyes:

Chad 09-07-2012 00:37
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Heard that as of next season SKY are changing how they offer the channel to their customers. Anyone that currently pays for SKY HD gets SKY F1 as part of their package. That's not the case next year, they have to subscribe to SKY Sports. If this is true, I wonder how many viewers SKY's F1 channel will lose next year.

Telly_ 09-07-2012 00:47
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35451025)
Heard that as of next season SKY are changing how they offer the channel to their customers. Anyone that currently pays for SKY HD gets SKY F1 as part of their package. That's not the case next year, they have to subscribe to SKY Sports. If this is true, I wonder how many viewers SKY's F1 channel will lose next year.

When you say "heard" does that mean you just made it up or do you have a link to a credible source?

denphone 09-07-2012 06:45
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35451025)
Heard that as of next season SKY are changing how they offer the channel to their customers. Anyone that currently pays for SKY HD gets SKY F1 as part of their package. That's not the case next year, they have to subscribe to SKY Sports. If this is true, I wonder how many viewers SKY's F1 channel will lose next year.
That will come as no surprise to the many that know Sky's tactics.

nstokes 09-07-2012 09:05
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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35451025)
Heard that as of next season SKY are changing how they offer the channel to their customers. Anyone that currently pays for SKY HD gets SKY F1 as part of their package. That's not the case next year, they have to subscribe to SKY Sports. If this is true, I wonder how many viewers SKY's F1 channel will lose next year.
I will wait to here that from a Sky source before i believe that

muppetman11 09-07-2012 09:33
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Source ? Link ?

nstokes 09-07-2012 10:14
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35451057)
Source ? Link ?
I dont think he has one, i reckon he is just trying to scrae us Sky people which isnt working :D

Kymmy 09-07-2012 11:28
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You will though probably find this happening after 2013 once the BBC contract expires.. Currently for half the races there is an alternative in the BBC but as they are not showing F1 after 2013 Sky can then do what they want and make it Subscription only (i.e..part of the Sky Sports package)

nstokes 09-07-2012 12:08
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35451091)
You will though probably find this happening after 2013 once the BBC contract expires.. Currently for half the races there is an alternative in the BBC but as they are not showing F1 after 2013 Sky can then do what they want and make it Subscription only (i.e..part of the Sky Sports package)
Thats fine for me at momnet. Means i still have 1.5 seasons before this happens

chris9991 09-07-2012 12:10
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According to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sportedit...red_betwe.html

it is a seven year agreement that the Beeb have (though it is a blog from last year)

nstokes 09-07-2012 12:12
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Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35451108)
According to this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/sportedit...red_betwe.html

it is a seven year agreement that the Beeb have (though it is a blog from last year)
Oh ya its till 2018, i forgot about that. In that case i dont see it going to a SS sub anytime soon, im not worried, also i have SS anyway :D

Kymmy 09-07-2012 12:28
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Cool, I thought that the BBC was just sharing till the end of their contract. I didn't realise it was a whole new contract with FOG..

Chad 09-07-2012 13:53
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Originally Posted by Telly_ (Post 35451028)
When you say "heard" does that mean you just made it up or do you have a link to a credible source?
I meant what I said. I'm sorry that you feel I just make stuff up.
Unfortunately I can't link you to the source as it was word of mouth. My friends’ brother works as a customer advisor for SKY in Dunfermline. He'd mentioned he'd heard rumors of this a couple of weeks back.

All we can do is wait and see how things develop in the next 12 months.

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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35451062)
I reckon he is just trying to scrae us Sky people which isnt working :D
:D No I'm way too busy to waste my time doing that.


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