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Andrewcrawford23 04-01-2012 20:35

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35354854)
Lol I don't it's impossible to remember as its a Mashup of characters and numbers.

So I've got it on a USB drive in a notepad file then just a case of copy and paste.

i wouldnt want to be you typign that intoa iphone or android small phone lol

RB2004 04-01-2012 20:46

Does take a while :( then I realised I could just email the key to myself and open it on the phone that way. Lol

Andrewcrawford23 04-01-2012 20:49

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by RB2004 (Post 35354861)
Does take a while :( then I realised I could just email the key to myself and open it on the phone that way. Lol

you need a connection in the first place :p my 3g doesnt always works so i have a fun job with that oen :) but ood way to do it

Begall 04-01-2012 20:54

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
Out of curiosity, which scenario do you think is more likely:

Someone taking 10 computers and sitting on your network for 2.264735807442766e+27 years (A very low estimate actually, this is for a 20 character password containing no punctuation)

Or

Your pendrive is stolen / Your email account is hacked / God knows what else you've stored it on and it's accessed that way?

Andrewcrawford23 04-01-2012 20:58

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by Begall (Post 35354865)
Out of curiosity, which scenario do you think is more likely:

Someone taking 10 computers and sitting on your network for 2.264735807442766e+27 years (A very low estimate actually, this is for a 20 character password containing no punctuation)

Or

Your pendrive is stolen / Your email account is hacked / God knows what else you've stored it on and it's accessed that way?

interesting question

assuming the password is dictonairy type word i say 1 but if it 20 randonm character for instance hdffgkldjfdhdkfhldfgerr i say 2

Chrysalis 04-01-2012 21:02

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35354741)
Well one thing for certain is that the VMNG300 will never reappear as the future is with the Superhub as it alone has 8 downstreams and works in exactly the same way as the VMNG300 when in Modem Mode.

So if you VMNG300 dies the will only be one device to replace it and that is everyones favourite the Superhub, so cherish your old device while it still works.http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon...ticons0426.gif

actually it doesnt work exactly the same way so stop spreading misinformation please.

We get it, you dont like the vmng300 because your employer ditched it.

kwikbreaks 04-01-2012 21:35

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
You've all missed the amazing security offered by the Superhub - you can't pick the wretched thing up through most walls so it's as safe as wired even without any encryption at all :)

Peter_ 05-01-2012 06:05

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35354872)
actually it doesnt work exactly the same way so stop spreading misinformation please.

We get it, you dont like the vmng300 because your employer ditched it.

You are one of the few who disbelieve that it actually works the same as a VMNG300 and that device was ditched because it was incapable of going forward with 8 downstreams unlike the Superhub which makes it an outmoded piece of junk which sooner rather than later you will need to use.

They should have bought off the shelf equipment from Motorola and Cisco as it would have been compatible with the CMTS's that we use plus they would have been a known quantity regards performance.

You do though have a short memory when it suits you, I a being made redundant by my employer so why oh why would I say a device was better if I did not think it was true.

General Maximus 05-01-2012 07:33

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks (Post 35354884)
You've all missed the amazing security offered by the Superhub - you can't pick the wretched thing up through most walls so it's as safe as wired even without any encryption at all :)

doh! I knew I missed something out on the list of those amazing features :D


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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35354982)
You are one of the few who disbelieve that it actually works the same as a VMNG300 and that device was ditched because it was incapable of going forward with 8 downstreams unlike the Superhub which makes it an outmoded piece of junk which sooner rather than later you will need to use

It might try to behave the same as a modem (not neccessarily the VMNG300) but Ignitionnet has said it isn't because it isn't a modem as such, but a fully bridged router. I don't pretend to know the technical ins and outs of what the difference is between the two and I doubt very much that it should make a difference to performance, but I definitely attribute the problems I was having in the rubbish speed tests I was getting when I had one (two) to it. It is no co-incidence that as soon as I went back to the VMNG300 they shot straight back up to where they should be.

Peter_ 05-01-2012 08:13

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by General Maximus (Post 35354996)


It might try to behave the same as a modem (not neccessarily the VMNG300) but Ignitionnet has said it isn't because it isn't a modem as such, but a fully bridged router. I don't pretend to know the technical ins and outs of what the difference is between the two and I doubt very much that it should make a difference to performance, but I definitely attribute the problems I was having in the rubbish speed tests I was getting when I had one (two) to it. It is no co-incidence that as soon as I went back to the VMNG300 they shot straight back up to where they should be.

If your VMNG300 develops a fault you can only have a Superhub though to replace it.

As I said above they should have bought Motorola and Cisco devices as they work in the correct way with the CMTS that are on the network, cost should not come into it as it is probably a negligible amount anyway.

Chrysalis 05-01-2012 09:45

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Masque all I see in you is someone who is 100% loyal to whatever their employer does.

I guarantuee if VM brought out a new modem or reverted to the vmng300 you would then be calling the superhub a obselete peice of junk. You just towing the partyline.

Be careful because many customers will still be using vmng300s those who have never changed tiers since they had it installed and those who were given it before it stopped been handed out. VM still support this device they just no longer supply it. The 2 are different things.

I am the wrong person to say to the devices work 100% the same way as I have seen repeatedly that they dont, remember I had both activated at once for a while and I was able to swap them at will and as such compare performance in jitter and throughput. Not to mention ignitions explanation which I agree with. A router in a bridge mode is not the same as a modem, it acts like one but isnt exactly the same.

Peter_ 05-01-2012 09:55

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35355070)
Masque all I see in you is someone who is 100% loyal to whatever their employer does.

I guarantuee if VM brought out a new modem or reverted to the vmng300 you would then be calling the superhub a obselete peice of junk. You just towing the partyline.

The VMNG300 will not make a return as it only supports 4 downstreams which makes it obsolete as the service heads towards 8 downstreams so with the VMNG300 faiing to meet that criteria it is a piece of junk.

Tell me something if a company was making you redundant would you be showing brand loyalty if so the is something not quite right, I tell it as I see and and have read enough about the devices in work to know a lot more than I could ever post on a public forum with regards the future.

The Superhub has been made the default device across all tiers and when your beloved VMNG300 bites the dust you will have to accept it as the replacement as the are no more VMNG300 modems to be had anywhere.

Again the very important fact to remember is that in a few months I will be made redundant that does not make someone a fanboy oddly enough in the real world.

Chrysalis 05-01-2012 10:02

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I dont have to accept anything, I could choose to leave VM if I felt the service via the CPE wasnt good enough.

craigj2k12 05-01-2012 11:11

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
the superhub adds to base ping rate and jitter, this has been confirmed by many users, so is FACT

the superhub allows for 8 downstreams, which makes it able to cope with speeds over 200mbit - FACT

on 30, 50 or 100, my OPINION is that the VMNG is better, it can acheive full speed while providing lower ping and jitter. whichever you think is better is up to you both (chrys and masque) but the facts are above

BenMcr 05-01-2012 11:14

Re: SuperHub becomes standard kit
 
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12 (Post 35355153)
the superhub allows for 8 downstreams, which makes it able to cope with speeds over 200mbit - FACT

You can do 200Mbit with the VMNG300 - if you limit it the product to 4 downstreams

However Virgin have already started to use more than 4 downstreams for 100Mbit, so that requires the VMDG480 to work correctly.


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