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Originally Posted by carlwaring (Post 35243037)

There are more people unhappy with their VM TV serice than with their ADSL broadband service? How is that relevant? It's also meaninless without actual figures or context.

I agree can't really see the point in the post , this wasn't really a thread moaning about VM , more what services people would like to see so how does ADSL BB get brought into it. Every forum member on here knows VM cable BB network is superior to the old copper network.

I also doubt there are more people unhappy with their VM TV service than there are with their ADSL service after all I would guess there are a lot more than 4 million ADSL lines out there.
Talk Talk alone has 4.1 million subscribers.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35242955)

It would be great if Virgin could negotiate a deal where any movie broadcast on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Channel 5 and Film 4 is offered for 7 days on a catch up basis. So for example today on terrestrial TV we have the following movies which we could access for 7 days via catch up:

Taffin - BBC1
Back to The Future III - ITV
Orphan - Channel 4
Vinyan - Channel 4
Wyoming Renegades - Channel 5
The Ride to Hangman's Tree - Channel 5
Last of the Dogmen - Channel 5
Fun with Dick and Jane - Channel 5
Miss Congeniality - Channel 5
Proof of Life - Channel 5
Nine Months - E4
High School Musical 3: Senior Year - 5*
The China Syndrome - 5USA
Baby Mama - ITV2
Tin Cup - ITV3
Inside I'm Dancing - ITV3
Scary Movie - Film4
Springfield Rifle - Film4
Sister Act - Film4
Girls! Girls! Girls! - Film4
The Duellists - Film4
The Italian Job - Film4
Alfie - Film4
Candy - Film4

Over the space of 7 days you'd quickly build up a library of over 100 films that you could watch for free even on M, M+ and L packages. It would be a better service than Picturebox and a very basic version of SKY's Anytime+ Movie service. Whilst the films on offer wouldn't be anywhere near as good as SKY's offering, at least you wouldn't have to subscribe to any movie channel to enjoy Virgins offering.

To pay for this service non skipable adverts could be included at the start of the movie, during the movie and at the end. The movies from BBC should be included for free as part of iplayer.

Good idea.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35243039)

VM focus on Broadband. Sky focus on TV. Quite relevant.

Well perhaps you could have explained it better. Also, do you have any official figures to backup that statement? Personally, I disagree.

I do know that VM is officially the least-officially-complained-about telecoms provider. I also know that most ADSL customers are getting less than 50% of their headline speed.

So I really can't see you being in any way correct.

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Understanding is a two-way process.

For instance, you are asking muppetman11 to substantiate something on which he agrees with you - that he doubts that more people are unhappy with VM TV than are with ADSL BB. ;)

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35243098)

I re-edited my post when I realised there was a post after the one I quoted :D

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Originally Posted by Paul M (Post 35242971)

Who said it was difficult - the only concept people seem to find difficult is VM make their own decisions on what they will or wont do.[COLOR="Silver"]

Well, plainly it isn't difficult, but you would think so with the lack of progress wouldn't you? While Virgin Media may make their own decisions on what and what not to do, it seems to be the 'what not to do' that wins out all the time, and the point I'm making is that unless better progress is made to keep up, VM will ultimately lose out to their competitors. Personally, I don't want to see that happen.

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l will always support Virgin but l will also have my opinions about them whether good or bad.

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Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35242904)

Think the ideal for customers of Sky and Virgin would be if you could just pick the channels you wanted. The packs idea obviously benefits the provider way more than the customer. Virgins in particular is way to ridgid

I disagree, you see I think that thinking in terms of channels is too rigid. Think programmes. Just buy what you want. Result = good quality viewing without all the rubbish at a fair price.

I don't want to pay for Sky One when I'm only watching 'Fringe' on that channel. I just want to pay for 'Fringe'. So if we had a large selection of programmes and films to choose from, for a set fee, I would rather pay for my stuff that way. Then I would have the Freeview channels on top of that, so I could still see 'The Event', 'Brothers and Sisters' and the like on More 4 and the other free channels, and supplement it with what I really wanted to see.

Look at Sky's 500 odd channels on its satellite system. Most of them are rubbish (or are of no interest to most). Why pay for them?

Sky Movies is particularly poor value because they keep showing the same films over and over and not enough new ones are being added.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35242990)

Carl this is what I mean

Someone into Movies alone has to pay 21.50 which compared to Lovefilms unlimited one disc at a time at a cost of 9.99 is expensive.

Which is why I'm suggesting that VM do a deal with Lovefilm to enable us to have a given number of hours per week at a fixed subscription cost. Anything over and above that would have to be paid for, but perhaps at a discounted rate if VM could negotiate that.

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Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35243007)

You've got the biggest on demand library of any TV provider in the UK and your wanting more on demand?

If your unhappy with your TV service move. The number of people unhappy with Virgin TV vastly outweights the number of people unhappy with ADSL broadband. If you've got the money to afford VM Internet/Sky TV do it if there is that many problems with Virgin TV.

EDIT: Oh yeah and films. They have to run 60 channels and you still can't watch what when you want (and pretty much never if you want it in HD), we have films on tap. If you want LoveFilm, get LoveFilm. And we have Film4 HD, the best free film channel in the UK (I presume that is the general opinion) exclusively on VM.

Yes, the biggest on demand library maybe, but it could be so much better, and also better managed!

I'm not unhappy with the TV service as you suggest, I just think it could be improved and VM need to stay ahead of the game in this area.

It's no good pointing to 60 channels if there is nothing on that you haven't already watched or nothing that appeals to you. Sky has so many, but not much on that I fancy watching.

VM could get a good deal for us with Lovefilm or another provider and this is what I am after.

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it would be great if we could do a deal with Lovefilm and if the subscription fee was reasonable l would subscribe to it.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35243482)

it would be great if we could do a deal with Lovefilm and if the subscription fee was reasonable l would subscribe to it.

As would many, if you read my post on the threat of streaming thread it would also appear that Netflix could soon arrive in the UK.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35243489)

As would many, if you read my post on the threat of streaming thread it would also appear that Netflix could soon arrive in the UK.

From what l read they have just signed a big deal with someone in America.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35243489)

As would many, if you read my post on the threat of streaming thread it would also appear that Netflix could soon arrive in the UK.

Yes, that's clearly the way to go! And if we can overcome the exclusivity clauses that Sky keeps invoking, we can see the programmes that are on Sky Atlantic that they won't let us have at a reasonable price!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35243496)

Yes its those buggers Sky again and their greediness.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35243500)

Yes its those buggers Sky again and their greediness.

..And that greed will be their downfall because a way will be found around them and they will then lose out on that income. Short term gain, long term pain.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35243505)

..And that greed will be their downfall because a way will be found around them and they will then lose out on that income. Short term gain, long term pain.

Yes l believe in the medium to long term Sky,s business model will increasingly come under pressure from other companies.