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mhatter67 11-05-2011 22:45

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35234274)
I guess it all depends what is worthwhile to the individual.

Mainstream programming eg new American series not on Alantic or VM. The only channel I can think of in any terms is Premier Sports!

carlwaring 11-05-2011 22:57

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Indeed; and therein lies the problem. Any channels VM add will be welcome by some and derided by others. Unless they add them all, but that's probably not a realistic proposition.

muppetman11 11-05-2011 23:21

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35234254)
What channels have we lost recently? MTV classic was closed by MTV themselves. Sky don't ave it either. So there doesn't need to be any replacements.

Bills go up, it doesn't mean you should be getting more though. i.e. your gas and electricity prices go up, do you call them and demand more because you have to pay more? thought not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Cla...UK_%26_Ireland)


In the UK, MTV Classic was previously available on Virgin Media but it was removed from that platform on 28 August 2010 along with MTV +1 and MTV Shows.


The channel is still available on UPC Ireland

http://www.upc.ie/television/digitalmaxplus/

And on Sky TV

http://www.sky.com/shop/tv/entertain...ks/music-pack/

And on TalkTalk TV.

So not only was MTV classic lost MTV Shows was also.

Rillington 11-05-2011 23:37

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35234267)
AS far as I am aware TiVo does not have or is likely to have a dynamic EPG, I think this a great shame as freeview PVR's have been offering this for a number of years.

I presume when you say dynamic EPG you are referring to the EPG equivalent of PDC?

And if so, out of interest, I wonder if the Sky EPG is a dynamic EPG?

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35234307)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Cla...UK_%26_Ireland)


In the UK, MTV Classic was previously available on Virgin Media but it was removed from that platform on 28 August 2010 along with MTV +1 and MTV Shows.

So not only was MTV classic lost , MTV+1 was and MTV Shows also.

MTV Shows has, I belive, subsequently been closed down by Viacom.

However, I never recall reading any reason as to why VM removed MTV Classic from their line-up.

alwaysabear 11-05-2011 23:40

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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35234321)
I presume when you say dynamic EPG you are referring to the EPG equivalent of PDC?

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MTV Shows has, I belive, subsequently been closed down by Viacom.

However, I never recall reading any reason as to why VM removed MTV Classic from their line-up.

Yes, sorry I did not make that clear.:D

muppetman11 11-05-2011 23:45

Re: Virgin Media lack of tv investment
 
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Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 35234321)
I presume when you say dynamic EPG you are referring to the EPG equivalent of PDC?

---------- Post added at 22:37 ---------- Previous post was at 22:33 ----------



MTV Shows has, I belive, subsequently been closed down by Viacom.

However, I never recall reading any reason as to why VM removed MTV Classic from their line-up.

Yes you maybe right on that however MTV classic is still on Sky.

thunderlips 12-05-2011 00:06

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i agree VM do need more channels !

denphone 12-05-2011 06:57

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Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35234274)
I guess it all depends what is worthwhile to the individual.

Plenty of channels are missing if you look at Media boy,s list of coming soon channels and on my bill everything seems to have gone up lately and if you compare like for like with lets say the supermarkets is that they are trying to get us in their stores by offering more and more offers and with Virgin lately it seem to be more and more price rises and nothing much coming the other way.

Stephen 12-05-2011 09:52

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35234442)
Plenty of channels are missing if you look at Media boy,s list of coming soon channels and on my bill everything seems to have gone up lately and if you compare like for like with lets say the supermarkets is that they are trying to get us in their stores by offering more and more offers and with Virgin lately it seem to be more and more price rises and nothing much coming the other way.

Comparing VM to a supermarket doesn't really work. It's more comparable to gas and electricity suppliers. Prices go up for the services they provide but it doesn't mean you will get more in return.

denphone 12-05-2011 10:15

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35234474)
Comparing VM to a supermarket doesn't really work. It's more comparable to gas and electricity suppliers. Prices go up for the services they provide but it doesn't mean you will get more in return.

Why,s is this comparable to gas and electricity then, give me your wise intellectual answer please.

muppetman11 12-05-2011 10:19

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35234474)
Comparing VM to a supermarket doesn't really work. It's more comparable to gas and electricity suppliers. Prices go up for the services they provide but it doesn't mean you will get more in return.

How is it more comparable to Gas and Electricity Suppliers ?

Example If I get dual fuel from Scottish Power what's the difference from getting it from another supplier COST

This doesn't work in the world of TV though , Den has XL , Sky Movies and Sport , Premium HD and TIVO which by my estimates costs £64.00 for TV alone when comparing he is naturally going to compare to Sky who carry a lot wider channel range , so when prices go up he expects to see more , and rightly so.

Stephen 12-05-2011 10:24

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35234478)
Why,s is this comparable to gas and electricity then, give me your wise intellectual answer please.

Well its a utility type service provided to your home for starters.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35234480)
How is it more comparable to Gas and Electricity Suppliers ?

Example If I get dual fuel from Scottish Power what's the difference from getting it from another supplier COST

This doesn't work in the world of TV though , Den has XL , Sky Movies and Sport , Premium HD and TIVO which by my estimates costs £64.00 for TV alone when comparing he is naturally going to compare to Sky who carry a lot wider channel range , so when prices go up he expects to see more , and rightly so.

So naturally then if your gas and electricity go up in price do you expect to get more energy? No its the same with Phone and TV services. Prices may rise each year but that doesn't mean you should get or expect to get anything extra.

muppetman11 12-05-2011 10:26

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35234481)
Well its a utility type service provided to your home for starters.

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So naturally then if your gas and electricity go up in price do you expect to get more energy? No its the same with Phone and TV services. Prices may rise each year but that doesn't mean you should get or expect to get anything extra.

No I would switch supplier :D

Prices will always rise in TV services , however the customer is right to expect more.

LexDiamond 12-05-2011 10:34

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Originally Posted by m419 (Post 35232046)
I can't get rid of it, i've moved into a flat in central london and I can't have sky because there are too many buildings in the way and I need permission, only people on the top floor can get it. The communal aerial doesn't seem to work, there is a Rediffusion sockets with a knob on which is defunct and so my best option would be Virgin's M or L package for now. I tried analogue by plugging the cable directly into the TV, that no longer works not even basic 5 channels.

So it's just unfair for those who can't actually get Sky!

VM tv isn't a product designed for people who can't get Sky.

Stephen 12-05-2011 11:29

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35234484)
No I would switch supplier :D

Prices will always rise in TV services , however the customer is right to expect more.

Why is the customer right to expect more if the price rises?

Would you expect a bigger Mars Bars if the price went up?

Would you expect more gas, when the price rises?

Prices on things always rise. Ususally because the cost of supplying it rises.


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