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punky 04-05-2010 10:36
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 35013726)
Answer for you, have the Met issued a statement denying the alleged?
Only posted 3 times by Maggy.

Flyboy 04-05-2010 12:09
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
I haven't denied being Lord Lucan, does that make me a homicidal fugitive. :D

papa smurf 04-05-2010 12:14
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35013748)
IT ISN'T TRUE.

It's a made up lie.NO police force anywhere in the UK has banned the wearing of England shirts..so no need to get your girdle all twisted..:rolleyes:
so you've been got at .is that what your trying to say ?
don't worry we wont let them get away with it
on with the shirts brave supporters and patriots
we shall not we shall not be moved blaaa blaaa blaaa ;)

TheDon 04-05-2010 13:35
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35013748)
It's a made up lie.NO police force anywhere in the UK has banned the wearing of England shirts..so no need to get your girdle all twisted..:rolleyes:
They haven't banned them, they've just issued guidance that says if pubs don't then they'll see it as not actively supporting the reduction of crime and if anything kicks off in their pubs they'll come down on them harder than if they had banned them.

It's not as ridiculous as banning them, but it's still ridiculous.

Maggy 04-05-2010 13:53
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35013840)
They haven't banned them, they've just issued guidance that says if pubs don't then they'll see it as not actively supporting the reduction of crime and if anything kicks off in their pubs they'll come down on them harder than if they had banned them.

It's not as ridiculous as banning them, but it's still ridiculous.
Link?

cookie_365 04-05-2010 19:47
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDon (Post 35013840)
They haven't banned them, they've just issued guidance that says if pubs don't then they'll see it as not actively supporting the reduction of crime and if anything kicks off in their pubs they'll come down on them harder than if they had banned them.

It's not as ridiculous as banning them, but it's still ridiculous.
Really? They've issued guidance that says exactly that? Would they be prosecuting under the If Anything Kicks Off Act (1995)? ;)

frogstamper 05-05-2010 02:20
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
I can't believe that this thread is still going...it appears two posters have a real issue with our police overloads and that everybody else thinks its a non story.
Guys if you are that concerned go to the pub in your England shirt and test the waters, if nothing happens then kay-sa-ra it was just another Sunsationalist story:) But if the police come in the pub batons waving nicking all England shirted fans you'll get your chance to come back here and rub our noses in it.:D

arcamalpha2004 19-05-2010 19:28
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
People who think this is a none story should look at the numerous groups being formed on Facebook.
Anyone stopped from entering a pub with an england shirt on should make their feelings known, in whatever fashion they seem appropriate.
This pandering to the minority in this country is getting too much.
If they are that offended by what people wear tough!

Derek 19-05-2010 19:30
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Are any of the facebook groups in response to the Police actually banning the wearing of England tops or in response to the tabloid headlines which have been shown to be a load of cobblers?

Hugh 19-05-2010 19:34
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 35024751)
People who think this is a none story should look at the numerous groups being formed on Facebook.
Anyone stopped from entering a pub with an england shirt on should make their feelings known, in whatever fashion they seem appropriate.
This pandering to the minority in this country is getting too much.
If they are that offended by what people wear tough!
Liberalconspiracy
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It is however true that the Licensing Act gives police too much power to shut down local events.

I made the same case when the Met used the Licensing Act’s Form 696 to stop black and Asian music live events across London.

Anyway, the point is that the story is bogus. There was no ban on wearing these tops whatsoever.

And yet it’s now become an urban myth travelling across Facebook at frightening speed.
I wouldn't count having a FaceBook page as an indicator of validity - for instance....

I Hate When Your Walking Home And A Hippo Just Falls On You

I Bet I Can Find 7 People Who Support Giving Dinosaurs The Right To Vote

Garden Gnome Liberation Front

Raistlin 19-05-2010 19:36
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 35024751)
People who think this is a none story should look at the numerous groups being formed on Facebook.
Anyone stopped from entering a pub with an england shirt on should make their feelings known, in whatever fashion they seem appropriate.
This pandering to the minority in this country is getting too much.
If they are that offended by what people wear tough!


You still banging this drum?

When did Facebook groups become an appropriate indicator of the truth?

How about the Facebook group that's against Facebook charging for access (categorically not true)? How about the Facebook group campaigning against the BBC cancelling Top Gear (categorically not true)? How about the Facebook group that convinced a number of people that there was a virus running rampant on Facebook and gave instructions for deleting an application from your applications list (the application was actually only being shown due to a code bug in a recent change and was NECESSARY to enable you to be able to see your friends list properly, so categorically not true)?

The problem with Facebook groups like that is that they're normally started either by someone that's got so little in their life to hold on to that brings them joy that they feel the need to attract attention in order to feel important, or they're started by idiots that see a story and immediately start spouting about how 'outraged' they are before they've even checked the facts.
In the end all they succeeding in doing is convincing other idiots (who are similarly unable to tell truth from fiction, and similarly idiotic enough not to check the facts of something before screaming and shouting about a loss of their liberties) that they need to join the group and spread the word.

Pathetic.

Stuart 19-05-2010 19:43
re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 35024751)
People who think this is a none story should look at the numerous groups being formed on Facebook.
Anyone can set up a facebook group. For any reason. Some people are out to cause trouble. Some people lie. Facebook makes no attempt to check that the points raised by it's groups are true. Please bear all that in mind when deciding whether to believe something you read on facebook.
Quote:
Anyone stopped from entering a pub with an england shirt on should make their feelings known, in whatever fashion they seem appropriate.
As long as that fashion is legal.

Quote:
This pandering to the minority in this country is getting too much.
If they are that offended by what people wear tough!
Except there is no ban, so they aren't pandering to anyone..
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35024757)
Liberalconspiracy
Quote:
It is however true that the Licensing Act gives police too much power to shut down local events.

I made the same case when the Met used the Licensing Act’s Form 696 to stop black and Asian music live events across London.

Anyway, the point is that the story is bogus. There was no ban on wearing these tops whatsoever.

And yet it’s now become an urban myth travelling across Facebook at frightening speed.
All of which just goes to disprove Douglas Adams. There is one thing that travels faster than Bad News in this Universe. False Bad News.

Tezcatlipoca 19-05-2010 19:47
Re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Title edited for accuracy ;)

Maggy 19-05-2010 19:53
Re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 35024766)
Anyone can set up a facebook group. For any reason. Some people are out to cause trouble. Some people lie. Facebook makes no attempt to check that the points raised by it's groups are true. Please bear all that in mind when deciding whether to believe something you read on facebook.

As long as that fashion is legal.



Except there is no ban, so they aren't pandering to anyone..


All of which just goes to disprove Douglas Adams. There is one thing that travels faster than Bad News in this Universe. False Bad News.
Actually I prefer 'a Lie can run around the world faster than the truth can put it's boots on'. ;)

Paul 19-05-2010 20:12
Re: Police to Not Ban the wearing of England Shirts in Pubs During the World cup
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 35024768)
Title edited for accuracy ;)
Edited again to replect thats its a debate.


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