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ZrByte 16-04-2010 23:36
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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35002866)
incredibly happy? Its an odd world we live in:( oh well I've no right to judge, if thats your view then fair enough
Incredibly happy may be a little strong but I certainly wouldn't be upset. And if he had been apprehended by the authorities I would be prefer for him to be taken into custody and wouldn't wish for him to have been killed instead.
However, If he stole my car and killed himself in his own stupidity I would consider it poetic justice. Nobody to blame but himself.

xpod 16-04-2010 23:39
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002860)
My reference to Pikeys was not in relation to this thread but the theft of Virginmedia Fibre cable which contains no copper but will cause major outages in areas that it occurs in.;)
Oh, i dont have any issues with the term Pikey, i dont have any issues at all in fact and was just curious why those who mentioned the travellers first had not been asked the same question as the first poster who complained about the dead human being side of things and the previous crass seeming remarks about his demise.

speedfreak 16-04-2010 23:42
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Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35002880)
Incredibly happy may be a little strong but I certainly wouldn't be upset. And if he had been apprehended by the authorities I would be prefer for him to be taken into custody and wouldn't wish for him to have been killed instead.
However, If he stole my car and killed himself in his own stupidity I would consider it poetic justice. Nobody to blame but himself.
ahhh now I see what you mean, I did think you were being a bit harsh :D

Flyboy 17-04-2010 00:03
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Originally Posted by ZrByte (Post 35002836)
If downloading films was physically dangerous, you knew this and you could actually be killed doing it you may have had a point.
So, if those who download illegally were wired to the mains and was electrocuted for doing it, they would have got what they deserve?

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Its like the point someone made earlier about the theft of his car, If I was in that situation and someone had stolen my car, and in their haste had killed themselves I would be incredibly happy though only if they had done this in a way that hadn't harmed anybody else. Poetic justice.
People don't deserve to die for theft, people don't deserve to die for stupidity but if people cause their own and only their own demise through a combination of the two I'm all for it.
It is so heartwarming that you find the value to be so insignificant.

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002852)
No one forced him to break into an electricity substation and no one made cut a cable carrying 30000 volts of electricity, it was his own greed and stupidity that made him do it.

Hopefully this will serve as a warning to other like minded people of the possible consequences of such actions.

I rather doubt it as their greed for making money at other peoples expense will see to that.
I have never said that anyone else but him is to blame for his own demise, but I take no satisfaction in that fact, nor do I relish in its entertainment, as some do here.

Peter_ 17-04-2010 00:07
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002922)




I have never said that anyone else but him is to blame for his own demise, but I take no satisfaction in that fact, nor do I relish in its entertainment, as some do here.
I did joke about it, gallows humour and of course being from Liverpool, but to be honest the is only one person to blame for his death and that is himself.

I cannot feel sorry for him as I said before because he could have killed someone else just for greed and stupidity.

bjorkiii 17-04-2010 00:24
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But by someone stealing a film by leaching couldn't he or she be stealing food out of a directors child's mouth ? she could die of malnutrition or maybe a person who works in blockbuster gets laid off just by the actions of a internet leacher which in turn leads to a family breakdown which in turn leads to a stabbing frenzy :mad: on your souls be it. But isn't it so much easier to laugh at at a person stealing cable wire thats different isn't it :D

peanut 17-04-2010 00:37
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Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 35002952)
But by someone stealing a film by leaching couldn't he or she be stealing food out of a directors child's mouth ? she could die of malnutrition or maybe a person who works in blockbuster gets laid off just by the actions of a internet leacher which in turn leads to a family breakdown which in turn leads to a stabbing frenzy :mad: on your souls be it. But isn't it so much easier to laugh at at a person stealing cable wire thats different isn't it :D
I can't quite understand the comment, but I think you missed the important bit at the end. "But isn't it so much easier to laugh at at a person stealing cable wire that's attached to a 30,000kv substation thats different isn't it". - Yes it is quite easy to laugh at the stupidness of it. The stealing part though is irrelevant.

Peter_ 17-04-2010 00:41
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Originally Posted by bjorkiii (Post 35002952)
But by someone stealing a film by leaching couldn't he or she be stealing food out of a directors child's mouth ? she could die of malnutrition or maybe a person who works in blockbuster gets laid off just by the actions of a internet leacher which in turn leads to a family breakdown which in turn leads to a stabbing frenzy :mad: on your souls be it. But isn't it so much easier to laugh at at a person stealing cable wire thats different isn't it :D
I personally do not download as it is to much hassle and if I want to see a movie I go the cinema or get the dvd.

This person could have caused the death of anyone walking past or as it was 30000 volts and obviously a sub station of some size could caused a hospital to have problems with keeping patients alive while waiting for backups to kick in.

This person thought nothing about how his selfish act of theft could have affected other people and by virtue of him being stupid paid the ultimate price with his life.

georgepomone 17-04-2010 01:17
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It's strange hows things can occur without us realising it. The substation supplied power to a factory that prints CD's/DVD's. The night shift was sent home when the power went off. The guy had a wife & family. OK he did it himself but still sad. When it happened the lights dimmed for five or six seconds throughout the town. Glad I didn't have to see the result. I used to work on H/V supplies and wouldn't have liked to see the result.

Maggy 17-04-2010 01:58
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Sigh!

Since when has it been obligatory to feel sympathy for those criminals who through their own crass stupidity get themselves killed.I've every sympathy for their families who are entirely innocent but frankly this person deserves little sympathy.

Slightly OT.
I'm pigging sick of copper thieves.I mostly work at a very large secondary school built in the 60s.It was a custom built Comprehensive with a very distinguishing feature of beautiful copper roofing with a beautiful verdigris patina.Unfortunately the school has been targeted so many times in the last two years that a third of the roofs are now replaced with copper without the patina..It looks horrible and makes the school look so much shabbier than it should.All because certain people think they have the right just to take what they can to make a fast buck.:mad: Let us hope the next lot fall off the roof and injure themselves severely.

Lord Nikon 17-04-2010 02:03
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Let me just address the 'downloading films is stealing from directors and authors' part first. I downloaded a copy of twilight when the film first came out, why? because I was curious about the film but not enough to justify spending the money in the cinema. I watched the downloaded version, then based on that viewing I went to the cinema to watch it, twice, taking someone with me each time, then I bought all 4 books. Then I bought the DVD when it came out.
Based on that first experience I then went to see New Moon when that came out, taking someone with me.
So, by downloading the film to ascertain whether I liked it I bought 6 cinema tickets so far, 2 DVDs and 4 books. None of which I would have purchased had I not seen the film for free initially.


Ok, back on topic.

For this idiot to fry himself the following events took place
1) He decided to enter the substation
To do which he either climbed or broke through the metal fence surrounding the substation, clearly marked with 'do not enter, danger of death' signs.
Then he forced the door to the substation, also clearly marked with 'danger of death' signs.
I will freely admit ignorance as to the interior architecture of a power substation but I would presume more safeguards inside and signs. he would presumably have had to bypass this.

He then fell foul of simple physics. by his action of penetrating the insulation of a 33kv power cable he suffered the reaction of becoming part of that circuit.

He, through his own actions and not those of anyone else, did a human impersonation of a fly in a bug zapper, and yes, that is funny. And because he removed himself from the gene pool, worthy of either a darwin award if he had no kids, or an honorable mention if he did.

gazfan 17-04-2010 04:21
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35002593)
I see, so the fact that he died due to stupidity, is "justice" and a reason to celebrate that he was electrocuted to death? There are truly some disturbing people.
No, there are some stupid people who try to steal copper from substations - no-one is 'celebrating', but the 'disturbed' people are the ones ignoring the danger of death signs, not anyone else, in my opinion.

Justice? - I'm not sure, but trying to steal copper from a substation is certainly stupid - death is usually inevitable.

- jumping off a skyscraper is another way of dying, 'justice' isn't involved in the process - however the loss of life is just as inevitable - there is no justification either way, the person is still dead - we may sympathise, but the result remains....

Sirius 17-04-2010 07:44
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Originally Posted by Lord Nikon (Post 35003007)
Let me just address the 'downloading films is stealing from directors and authors' part first. I downloaded a copy of twilight when the film first came out, why? because I was curious about the film but not enough to justify spending the money in the cinema. I watched the downloaded version, then based on that viewing I went to the cinema to watch it, twice, taking someone with me each time, then I bought all 4 books. Then I bought the DVD when it came out.
Based on that first experience I then went to see New Moon when that came out, taking someone with me.
So, by downloading the film to ascertain whether I liked it I bought 6 cinema tickets so far, 2 DVDs and 4 books. None of which I would have purchased had I not seen the film for free initially.


Ok, back on topic.

For this idiot to fry himself the following events took place
1) He decided to enter the substation
To do which he either climbed or broke through the metal fence surrounding the substation, clearly marked with 'do not enter, danger of death' signs.
Then he forced the door to the substation, also clearly marked with 'danger of death' signs.
I will freely admit ignorance as to the interior architecture of a power substation but I would presume more safeguards inside and signs. he would presumably have had to bypass this.

He then fell foul of simple physics. by his action of penetrating the insulation of a 33kv power cable he suffered the reaction of becoming part of that circuit.

He, through his own actions and not those of anyone else, did a human impersonation of a fly in a bug zapper, and yes, that is funny. And because he removed himself from the gene pool, worthy of either a darwin award if he had no kids, or an honorable mention if he did.
:clap:

TheDaddy 17-04-2010 08:18
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35002934)
I did joke about it, gallows humour and of course being from Liverpool, but to be honest the is only one person to blame for his death and that is himself.

I cannot feel sorry for him as I said before because he could have killed someone else just for greed and stupidity.
No one has asked you to feel sorry for him, personally I don't see the point in taking the pee out of some one who is dead, it's not like he is going to be bothered by it, in fact the only people likely to be bothered are his friends and family, most of whom weren't cutting through any cables and as has already been pointed out gallows humour is supposed to be funny, a part from a couple of puns there have precious few laughs in this thread so far imo.

Ramrod 17-04-2010 13:53
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http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/news/ma...named_1_214597
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