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nomadking 01-12-2009 15:02

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34919030)
:confused: The rent in question here is £1600 pw - that's £83,200 pa :shocked:

And that's after Tax etc.

Gary L 01-12-2009 16:23

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34919030)
:confused: The rent in question here is £1600 pw - that's £83,200 pa :shocked:

LOL I've only just realised it's a week not a month!

THROW THEM OUT. I'M NOT CONTRIBUTING TOWARDS THAT!

If they were working they'd have to rent wherever they could afford to rent. if it's too small then do what everybody else has to do. sort something out for themselves.

Hugh 01-12-2009 16:43

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
Unless you live in Westminster, you're not contributing towards that.

Gary L 01-12-2009 16:48

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34919096)
Unless you live in Westminster, you're not contributing towards that.

I can't afford to live in Westminster.

papa smurf 01-12-2009 16:54

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34919100)
I can't afford to live in Westminster.

my neither -- asylum please

Gary L 01-12-2009 17:07

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34919105)
my neither -- asylum please

I think the rules are that you have to be non British to be eligible.

Hugh 01-12-2009 19:43

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
Ah - those would be "Gary's imaginary rules".......

(which do not take into account that the family, although they come from Somalia, are now British Citizens, and their children were all born in the UK).

(or do you subscribe to a certain political party's definition of "British"?)

Gary L 01-12-2009 19:56

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34919223)
Ah - those would be "Gary's imaginary rules".......

(which do not take into account that the family, although they come from Somalia, are now British Citizens, and their children were all born in the UK).

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Qualifying for asylum depends on whether you are a refugee, as described in the United Nations 1951 Refugee Convention. It says a refugee is someone who is outside his or her country of origin because of a well-founded fear of persecution for one of five reasons:
You have to be Non British in the first place. what has this family got to do with anything now that they qualified long ago?

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(or do you subscribe to a certain political party's definition of "British"?)
Do you mean the Labour party?

Jon T 01-12-2009 20:13

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34918973)
An incompetent council waisting money on an unnecessary home. Nothing new there.

No, i think you'll find that benefit regulations are put in place by the DWP. Homelessness and Housing allocation rules also come from some central government department or another. Local authorities have no flexibility at all in this.

Flyboy 01-12-2009 21:27

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 34919016)
It is that comment that is nonsense.

First of all, the council houses that were sold had families living in them. So the number of Council houses would go down by x houses, but the number of families that the Council were responsible for, would go down by the same number.

Aah I see and just when would you expect those people to stop having children? Where were they going to live? Why then, do the councils now rely on private landlords, more and more, to provide social housing? Ironically many in the very same houses that were local authority owned in the first place.

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Secondly, no matter how many Council houses were built, this family would not be housed in any of them, because of the size and make-up(ages of children) of the family.
And what evidence are you are basing that on what exactly? You have absolutely no idea that would have happened.

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34919030)
:confused: The rent in question here is £1600 pw - that's £83,200 pa :shocked:

But that is not the fault of the family in question. That was decision made by the local authority. It is also down to the high property prices in Westminster. A house identical to this one, in Derbyshire, for example, would probably be a quarter of the cost.

---------- Post added at 21:27 ---------- Previous post was at 21:23 ----------

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Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34919257)
No, i think you'll find that benefit regulations are put in place by the DWP. Homelessness and Housing allocation rules also come from some central government department or another. Local authorities have no flexibility at all in this.

They most certainly do, despite what the media would have you believe. They are the ones who decide where to put the families, not central government. They could have quite easily rented two flats side by side, at a fraction of the cost, but oddly enough decided not to. Or they could have re-housed them in a different borough.

Osem 01-12-2009 21:31

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34919305)
But that is not the fault of the family in question.

.... and where did I say it was the fault of the family? :confused:

Jon T 01-12-2009 21:39

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 34919305)
They most certainly do, despite what the media would have you believe. They are the ones who decide where to put the families, not central government. They could have quite easily rented two flats side by side, at a fraction of the cost, but oddly enough decided not to. Or they could have re-housed them in a different borough.

Obviously your work for a LA, and know the inner workings of one.....and on your days off your must do volunteer work for the DWP.

Flyboy 01-12-2009 21:43

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
As a landlord, I too have a reasonable level of insight into this. I have seen some very "inappropriate" behaviour from some local authority employees and some very unscrupulous landlords. So, how does this, or any other, family not deserve to live in a house?

Osem 01-12-2009 21:47

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
Was just trying to find out more about this case:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936223.ece

and another popped up:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...taxpayers.html

This time it's £3,000 pw (£156,000 pa) if the source is to be believed. :shocked:

martyh 01-12-2009 21:48

Re: £1600 pw housing benefit!
 
it wouldn't be the first time that 2 council properties have been knocked into one ,i myself have worked in such properties this would have been much more preferable than moving them into the one they are in now and a fraction of the cost ,even ,as Flyboy has said they could be moved to a different borough or even different part of the country


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