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AndyCambs

26-11-2008 16:24

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34683699)

Is this a fact, or an assumption?

Or maybe even someone who doesn't want better encryption as they have a hacked box?

cimt	26-11-2008 16:29

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Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34683642)

I wouldn't be happy but I will do something about it, vm ain't bothred.

VM don't make much profit on there TV service they probably make peanuts, however much of there profit is form there broadband and telephone service.
The reason why I feel vm don't want to invest in a new encryption system is because they feel its not worth the money.

So why do you do it then? You'd hate it if you were losing profit, but you don't care when it's the otherway around?

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34683699)

Is this a fact, or an assumption?

I always thought it was the TV side that earned them the profit? I think I read it somewhere on here. Broadband in the UK isn't very good for profit or something? Or am I getting mixed up with something else?

funcard_4

26-11-2008 16:38

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34683727)

So why do you do it then? You'd hate it if you were losing profit, but you don't care when it's the otherway around?

I always thought it was the TV side that earned them the profit? I think I read it somewhere on here. Broadband in the UK isn't very good for profit or something? Or am I getting mixed up with something else?

I do it for educational purposes only.... If something goes wrong with my tv or broadband I can fix it myself without having to phone those donuts in india who don't have a clue. anything box or modem related i can fix good sence of satisfaction thats why I do it and it saves me a few bob. Andif your thinking I am not a trader.

Its all part of the rat race i'm afraid, VM don't care about you they just want your money.

joglynne

26-11-2008 16:56

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Suspected fraud and money laundering ring raided - 25 November 2008

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The OYO business park in Hindmans Way, Dagenham, and addresses in East Ham, Ilford and Plaistow were raided by 24 officers last week.

Officers seized more than 4,000 set top boxes and Ã‚Â£90,000 in cash. Five men were arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to defraud. A woman was arrested on suspicion of money laundering.

http://www.bdrecorder.co.uk/content/...A59%3A21%3A587

Chris

26-11-2008 17:07

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Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34683732)

That's the biggest pile of self-justifying horse manure I've ever read.

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Its all part of the rat race i'm afraid, VM don't care about you they just want your money.

At least have the decency to admit you're a thief. The man down at the corner shop doesn't care about you either. He just wants your money. Do you nick newspapers and sweets off him?

funcard_4

26-11-2008 18:30

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34683751)

That's the biggest pile of self-justifying horse manure I've ever read.

At least have the decency to admit you're a thief. The man down at the corner shop doesn't care about you either. He just wants your money. Do you nick newspapers and sweets off him?

LOL, newspaper and sweets come on, VM is a multi million pound company I am not physically stealing anything of them, if VM wanted to put a stop to this they would of done it along time ago, but they are letting this happen, i bet even the vm techs are at it. When i moved into my new place I subscibed with vm the two tech came down and put one line into my house downstairs, I also wanted an extra connection upstairs so i paid them Ã‚Â£30 and they happily sorted it out, if I went through the proper channels vm would of charged me alot more. Why pay Ã‚Â£87 pm or what ever its is, whilst you can get it for free. I don't make money or anything from doing this, its for my benifit only.

Chris

26-11-2008 18:37

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Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34683828)

Ah, the old 'victimless crime' fallacy. Well, if that's how you live with yourself, you'd best get on with it. Let's hope the company's abuse team don't catch up with you. That would be a real shame.

funcard_4

26-11-2008 18:43

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34683831)

Ah, the old 'victimless crime' fallacy. Well, if that's how you live with yourself, you'd best get on with it. Let's hope the company's abuse team don't catch up with you. That would be a real shame.

cheers, off to watch some free telly :p:

Chris

26-11-2008 18:44

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Right. And I bet you're surfing with a cloned modem as well.

funcard_4

26-11-2008 18:45

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34683847)

Right. And I bet you're surfing with a cloned modem as well.

how you guess??? searching for some macs at the same time...20mb speed loving it, only Ã‚Â£4.99pm not bad is it.

Chris

26-11-2008 18:48

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Thieving **** are fairly predictable.

cimt	26-11-2008 18:53

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These are reasons why prices can be high. If people actually paid for the proper service, they'd be able to lower the prices a bit. I can't see it happening, but it could happen.

funcard_4

26-11-2008 19:13

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Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34683860)

These are reasons why prices can be high. If people actually paid for the proper service, they'd be able to lower the prices a bit. I can't see it happening, but it could happen.

I dn't think this will ever happen, look at sky they have a secure system one that has never been hacked, but there prices are sky high.

Raistlin

26-11-2008 19:15

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Originally Posted by funcard_4 (Post 34683879)

I dn't think this will ever happen, look at sky they have a secure system one that has never been hacked, but there prices are sky high.

Their prices are a reflection of the going market rate for comparable services, which has been artificially inflated by the fact that the providers of those comparable services are being ripped off by theives.

cimt	26-11-2008 19:17

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Look who owns Sky... Infact, you could get all the channels for free with Sky. A couple of years ago, a mate of mine had something that gave him the full list of channels for free. So it's not that secure, is it?

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