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I am sure the people of Switzerland and Holland thought the same, now they have otherwise healthy people being put down for being depressed or lonely....

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Yeah well we all know your mortal hatred for religion so you could at least admit to being biased.

My view is the same as the one I had before I became a Christian - euthenasia WILL be abused.

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Russ i get what your saying but everything gets abused but does that mean we deny all things that can be abused no we don't because while abuse may happen many more benefit from it. I am not saying there isn't **** out there that would attempt to abuse this but we have to look beyond that at the many thousands maybe tens of thousands of people who if they were able and it was medically permisable would elect to end their life while there was still dignity to it and family members were left with good memories rather then the memories of the person that was ravaged by whatever illness.

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for the vast majority the law is fine you can end your life when and how you wish as long as you plan don't make a fuss and don't involve people who will directly benefit

and as a family you can arrange to alleviate the suffering and in most cases how someone dies

the media and some campaigners make it seem like that you can not end your life or help some one die with dignity now but this is far from the truth you just have to follow the rules

and it allows investigation to prevent outright abuse

if however some one has i signed piece of paper saying they wish to die i very much doubt there will ever be any checking done

which how ever cruel that is to a very few who may not be able to use the law as it stands is the way it needs to be

you can never make it so its fair to absolutely every one no mater what you do but changing this would put far more at a disadvantage than it would help

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am i missing something here ,why have all these urns containing peoples ashes been dumped anyway don't people claim them and put them in a remembrance garden ?

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If you have no family, or family that cares about you, then there is no one to claim.

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Swiss suicide clinic Dignitas is under investigation over claims that it ignored a patient's distressed mental condition to give him drugs to end his own life.

Strict assisted suicide laws in Switzerland state that each patient must be of sound mind and able to understand the consequences of their actions.

But now details have emerged of a patient who was allegedly given a DIY suicide kit prescribed by a Zurich gynaeologist despite suffering from paranoid schizophrenia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...icide-kit.html

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The assisted suicide of a woman who wanted to escape old age has reignited the debate about euthanasia.

Nan Maitland, 84, a right-to-die campaigner, was not terminally ill but suffered from arthritis and said her life consisted of ‘more pain than pleasure’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...de-clinic.html

This guy sums up my views perfectly

‘The true aim of those campaigning for a change in the law, as we have seen today, is to allow anyone who requests it, regardless of their age or health, to be helped to end their lives.

‘All the evidence shows that any change in the law would place pressure on vulnerable people ... to end their lives so as not to be a burden on loved ones, carers, or the state.’

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easy for her to say as she is probably wealthy enough to not need the nhs.

as a side note I think the government shouldnt even have advisors, advisors arent elected yet I expect have a great role in how policies are drawn up.

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Got to love the daily mail... not.

'healthy women' headline then goes on to say she had crippling arthritus.

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I live with pain everyday and the only certainty i have for the future is that my pain will continue to increase to the point oneday where it will be unbearable. At that point i would like to have the option to elec t to die properly and not make some half assed attempt on my own. Nothing about being a burden although i certainly would be but about my right to choose not to live in pain which i think anyone should have. Hell if an animal was suffering at my level now we would consider it cruel to keep it alive yet we insist on it with human beings because "life is sacred" total stupidity.

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yeah next we will be saying anyone ill should stop living as they a burden.

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Chrysalis you know very well i would never support that attitude but intelligent people in their right mind should be able to have a choice and in my right mind there is no way in hell even the most persistent or ardent of family members would ever get me to agree to dying if i didn't want too. Can we formualte a law that would prevent it 100% no of course we couldn't but then you name me one law we have that is 100% effective for what it is intended doesn't mean we do away with them all does it.

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Voters in the Zurich area of Switzerland are voting on two proposals related to assisted suicide.

The first, to introduce a complete ban on the practice, looks set to be defeated.

But the second, which proposes limiting assisted suicide to Zurich residents only, could get more support.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13403074

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Campaigners against a change in the law over assisted suicide today warned prosecutors were interpreting new guidance very liberally and risked creating "legalisation by stealth"

By far the worst form of legalisation, perhaps it's time for our glorious leaders to debate this again.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standa...legislation.do

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I wouldn't have wanted to be the judge in this case

A WOMAN with brain damage must not be allowed to die despite being barely conscious for eight years, the High Court ruled today.

The landmark ruling represents the first time English courts have been asked to decide whether to stop life-supporting treatment of a patient who was not in a vegetative state.

Relatives wanted to end her life because they said she would not want to live "a life dependent on others".

Not sure how I could weigh up

Mr Justice Baker said today: "The factor which does carry substantial weight, in my judgment, is the preservation of life.

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They love her dearly and want only what is best for her, and it has been desperately difficult for them to make this application to court for treatment to be withdrawn

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ed-to-die.html