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Fatec 15-09-2008 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blaupunkt (Post 34638009)
going on some of the replys here am i to understand that you will now be traffic managed if you download and go over your cap at any time of the day ? i was under the impression that you could download as much as you wanted between the hours of mightnight and 4pm in the afternoon was it, if you went over your limit (depending what line you have) you would then be traffic managed for aprox 4 hours..
Daytime STM was added a few months ago.

The new hours are (note im only doing the limits for 20Mbit)

10AM-3PM 6GB Download

4PM-9PM 3GB Download

And it's 5 hours down to 5Mbit

blaupunkt 15-09-2008 21:24
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ok thanks, best not download to many xbox360 demos then when i get in from work :S lucky i only use the PS3 for bluray.

SteevieNiteHeat 16-09-2008 02:58
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34637899)
Dont get me wrong Usage status would be great but there is 3rd party software which can do this, people just have to be bothered to sort it themselves as Virgin havent done this and from what I can see wont
BUT what about the homes with multiple users, what, the account hodler has to access x amount of PC's and add up all the figures?
And then as somebody said, gaming consoles that these "monitoring tools" cannot be installed on...

Also while I am on the subject, I have more than 1 PC in my home, and a central sever which backs up computers at different times of the day & night over the network, so the information that gets backed up also counts on these "monitoring tools" - DU meter & Netmeter and the like, so how accurate would these tools be? not very at all!

just trying to add more as I agree that virgin SHOULD supply something to show how much you have used!

xspeedyx 16-09-2008 10:41
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Which I agree they should but a router can do this a Sirus pointed out and if you have a network you can use a router to do this netmeter and likes of this are only really good if you have one pc more than one pc or gaming console then a router can do this, as your more likely to have a router if using more than on pc/console

SteevieNiteHeat 16-09-2008 12:04
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34638225)
Which I agree they should but a router can do this a Sirus pointed out and if you have a network you can use a router to do this netmeter and likes of this are only really good if you have one pc more than one pc or gaming console then a router can do this, as your more likely to have a router if using more than on pc/console
IF every router could do it (and I know mine cannot) and people transfer files between PC's by network, how do you think them files are transfered??? yep you got it, it goes through the router, so your point STILL is not valid, as say I transfer a 3GB file from one PC to another, that 3GB WILL show up as data, one computer will be uploading the data, while the target computer will be downloading it from the uploading computer, you think that internal network bandwidth (pc-to-pc) is not counted??

This is why my DU Meter shows my monthly usage around 300GB just on 1 computer alone, without the others around the house!!!

Ignitionnet 16-09-2008 12:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteevieNiteHeat (Post 34638265)
IF every router could do it (and I know mine cannot) and people transfer files between PC's by network, how do you think them files are transfered??? yep you got it, it goes through the router, so your point STILL is not valid, as say I transfer a 3GB file from one PC to another, that 3GB WILL show up as data, one computer will be uploading the data, while the target computer will be downloading it from the uploading computer, you think that internal network bandwidth (pc-to-pc) is not counted??

This is why my DU Meter shows my monthly usage around 300GB just on 1 computer alone, without the others around the house!!!
You need to monitor the WAN port on the router, not the LAN port. That way only traffic that goes onto your internet link will be counted.

xspeedyx 16-09-2008 13:13
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I knew mr broadband would help with the my post lol

Fatec 16-09-2008 13:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34638266)
You need to monitor the WAN port on the router, not the LAN port. That way only traffic that goes onto your internet link will be counted.
Abit of a ****take having to do all that though.

Glad i dont have to put up with issues like that :p:

SteevieNiteHeat 16-09-2008 13:30
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34638266)
You need to monitor the WAN port on the router, not the LAN port. That way only traffic that goes onto your internet link will be counted.
But STILL, some if not most routers do not support this, so then what can we use??

It is down to virgin to provide measures so we can check this information!

With the phone package, they dont charge people for calls WITHOUT showing the important information so we the customers can check, such as date, time, number called, duration and cost of each call etc, and yes we even have the choice for FULL itemised billing, so if they can apply this to the phone package, they can easily apply it to broadband! But like has been said somewhere above, they are now saying they cannot as their STM model is a joke and a lot of people have been hit with STM without even using their connections, yes there is a fault with it, and this is virgin's way of denying all liability for problems with THEIR STM model! Its the typical VM BS of lying & even having the cheek to blame US the customers that put the phat bonuses in their pockets for sitting on their useless (often fat) backsides as they cook up even more ways to screw its PAYING loyal customers over yet again!

Point prooved, enough said! This will be my final word on the matter as nothing anyone can say will make me change my mind!

Ignitionnet 16-09-2008 13:36
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TraxData2 (Post 34638310)
Abit of a ****take having to do all that though.

Glad i dont have to put up with issues like that :p:
Quite agree.

xspeedyx 16-09-2008 13:46
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteevieNiteHeat (Post 34638313)
But STILL, some if not most routers do not support this, so then what can we use??

It is down to virgin to provide measures so we can check this information!

With the phone package, they dont charge people for calls WITHOUT showing the important information so we the customers can check, such as date, time, number called, duration and cost of each call etc, and yes we even have the choice for FULL itemised billing, so if they can apply this to the phone package, they can easily apply it to broadband! But like has been said somewhere above, they are now saying they cannot as their STM model is a joke and a lot of people have been hit with STM without even using their connections, yes there is a fault with it, and this is virgin's way of denying all liability for problems with THEIR STM model! Its the typical VM BS of lying & even having the cheek to blame US the customers that put the phat bonuses in their pockets for sitting on their useless (often fat) backsides as they cook up even more ways to screw its PAYING loyal customers over yet again!

Point prooved, enough said! This will be my final word on the matter as nothing anyone can say will make me change my mind!
and now think of your happy place and breath

SteevieNiteHeat 16-09-2008 13:48
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34638321)
and now think of your happy place and breath
do not patronise me, I have my oppinions and you have yours!

Not everyone has a router that can do what yours can!

Fatec 16-09-2008 13:51
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthlinux (Post 34638321)
and now think of your happy place and breath
Ok *rolls a joint*...ok i'm going to a pretty place where the flowers grow, i'll be back later :p:

xspeedyx 16-09-2008 13:55
Re: Pathetic excuse.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SteevieNiteHeat (Post 34638323)
do not patronise me, I have my oppinions and you have yours!

Not everyone has a router that can do what yours can!
I see someone needs a hug and a happy pill, come on dude I was playing around, trax pass the joint to stev.

Sorry mods will get back on topic now

Maggy 16-09-2008 14:15
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Yes let us do so. ;)


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