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zing_deleted 23-03-2008 17:26

Re: Multiple abortions
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34512404)
It appears that BBKing was half right then

If a guy for example snowboards or stunt bikes and breaks his neck who is to blame? me as someone who thinks they are mad for doing it? or him for making his choices and being responsable for his actions?

Ramrod 23-03-2008 17:51

Re: Multiple abortions
 
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34510824)
I will get flamed for this but I personally think abortion for any other reason than severe handicapped is tantamount to murder . Abortion for choice imo is just wrong .

Rape? Incest?

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 17:52

Re: Multiple abortions
 
I conceded rape later on as for incest well we are all mutants anyway ;)

Xaccers 23-03-2008 19:59

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512424)
If a guy for example snowboards or stunt bikes and breaks his neck who is to blame? me as someone who thinks they are mad for doing it? or him for making his choices and being responsable for his actions?

So you cross the road and get run over, a dangerous activity crossing the road, hundreds die from it every year, but in your book, you should be left to your own devices because after all, you CHOSE to cross the road right?

Personally, the thought of a scared woman sticking a wire coathanger up herself in the bath doing unknown damage simply because of people with views like yourself Zing, is completely appauling.
Not to mention that some of the damage could lead to guarenteed miscarriages (so more children dying) in the future.

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 20:02

Re: Multiple abortions
 
I do not care what you think about me and my views and your not going to change my mind .
If you do not look and take precations when crossing the road and you get hit then its tough titties

Stop, Look, Listen

Stop, Think, Wear a nodder

Xaccers 23-03-2008 20:04

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512522)
I do not care what you think about me and my views and your not going to change my mind .
If you do not look and take precations when crossing the road and you get hit then its tough titties

Stop, Look, Listen

Stop, Think, Wear a nodder

And when the nodder splits?
Down to poundstretcher for a coathanger and a bottle of gin?

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 20:07

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Then your in the unlucky 1%

Unless of course you actually think all these unwanted pregnancies are down to inefficient contraceptive and not just some slapper woman screwing a slapper bloke after a night on the beer and not giving a toss about the consequences cuz they can just arrange a clinic visit

Chin chan china man walking down the strand for a joke have a poke feeling very gland. Chin chan china man couldn't give a rap 6 days later clap clap clap

Xaccers 23-03-2008 20:09

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512525)
Then your in the unlucky 1%

Unless of course you actually think all these unwanted pregnancies are down to inefficient contraceptive and not just some slapper woman screwing a slapper bloke after a night on the beer and not giving a toss about the consequences cuz they can just arrange a clinic visit

Chin chan china man walking down the strand for a joke have a poke feeling very gland. Chin chan china man couldn't give a rap 6 days later clap clap clap

Ah so those who actually deal with the multiple abortions (remember, the majority of them are from women over 30) are wrong when they say it's where the pill/condom/coil/injection/cap etc has failed, it's just that there are groups of over 30s women giving it out without a care in the world, and going for one abortion isn't a biggie so why not have more, it's easier than the pill after all right?

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 20:10

Re: Multiple abortions
 
well come back with the facts of these women actually saying the precations didnt work and ill answer that

Xaccers 23-03-2008 20:14

Re: Multiple abortions
 
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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512527)
well come back with the facts of these women actually saying the precations didnt work and ill answer that

Did you read the article linked to in the OP?


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She said the figures suggested that most women having repeat abortions fell pregnant as "a result of contraceptive failure", having "completed their family, rather than any recklessness".

"The longer you are sexually active, the more likely you are to have an unwanted pregnancy or experience contraceptive failure."

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 20:15

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Lets come back a yard and allow me to challenge your bull plop..

33 out if 54 who had 8 pregnancies were over 30 ok

the report actually states nearly 15,000 women had had over 3
During that year women seeking terminations were most likely to have fallen into the 18-to-24 age category.

So please where is this most are over 30 crap coming from???

Bare in mind these are incomplete figues as it only covers 3 + terminations so you could double or triple the figures or higher so 100,000 terminations.
The labour mp you quote doesnt make sense.
She states

"This is especially true for women over the age of 25 who don't have specialist services in the way teenagers and young women do." She said the figures suggested that most women having repeat abortions fell pregnant as "a result of contraceptive failure", having "completed their family, rather than any recklessness".

But the other figures show most terminations fall in the under 25 range

Xaccers 23-03-2008 20:17

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512531)
Lets come back a yard and allow me to challenge your bull plop..

33 out if 54 who had 8 pregnancies were over 30 ok

the report actually states nearly 15,000 women had had over 3
During that year women seeking terminations were most likely to have fallen into the 18-to-24 age category.

So please where is this most are over 30 crap coming from???

If they're having 8 abortions then by your own reckoning they must be some super slappers then.

How does women having repeat abortions after contraception has failed them once they've completed their families not make sense to you?
It's relatively easy.
When mummy and daddy have the children they want, they often don't stop making love (I know in some relationships that happens which causes divorce etc especially if mummy isn't getting what she wants from daddy) but they don't want to have more kids. So they use Mr Contraceptive who helps stop mummy getting pregnant. Unfortunately, Mr Contraceptive isn't 100%, and so if you use him lots and lots you increase the chance of him letting you down. Simple really.

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 20:21

Re: Multiple abortions
 
or using the wrong contraceptive maybe after a few goes at the clinic they may have learned what they are using isnt working

I wouldnt say super slappers but I may think they are stupid

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Also the labour mp says these women have completed their familys . Have they not heard of sterilisation? You gonna come back now and say well that can go wrong as it can but still not that often

Xaccers 23-03-2008 22:35

Re: Multiple abortions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34512534)
Also the labour mp says these women have completed their familys . Have they not heard of sterilisation? You gonna come back now and say well that can go wrong as it can but still not that often

Many people, myself included, would not want our partners to be unable to have more children with a new partner should something happen to ourselves, or even if the relationship just broke down.
Therefore sterilisation is not an option.

If a contraceptive is 99% successful, and you have sex 600 times a year, that's 6 times it failed.
Do that over 30 years and that's 180 failures.
How exactly is someone stupid for that?

zing_deleted 23-03-2008 23:06

Re: Multiple abortions
 
errrrr dude that would require every time it failed to be at the exact right time for fertilisation to result in a pregnancy please stop throwing bull crap figures at me in a lame attempt to dismiss me

---------- Post added at 23:06 ---------- Previous post was at 22:58 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34512594)
Many people, myself included, would not want our partners to be unable to have more children with a new partner should something happen to ourselves, or even if the relationship just broke down.
Therefore sterilisation is not an option.

If a contraceptive is 99% successful, and you have sex 600 times a year, that's 6 times it failed.
Do that over 30 years and that's 180 failures.
How exactly is someone stupid for that?

If its got to the point they are needing an 8th abortion they seriously need to do something . Are you telling me its ok to have 8 abortions in a life? let alone the possibility that any of these might have a 9th or 10th? no normal person would get into this position


Nothing you do or say is going to make me say your right as im sure nothing I do say will convince you I see no point in further debate with you on this subject


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