Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501887)

Pretty sure it was down to there no longer being a state of emergency, therefore no legal requirement for ID cards.
Had the government been able to show there was still a state of emergency, then ID cards would have continued to be legally required.

Originally Posted by freezin (Post 34501906)

The protests started because there was no state of emergency. To its credit, the government of Winston Churchill scrapped the cards soon after winning the 1951 General Election.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing (Post 34501776)

THESHAOLIN while you are entitled to your opinion so is everyone else so maybe bear that in mind for a more pleasant forum experience. As for the information that an ID card would hold 95% of it is already out there anyway and if as you say you run a business well more of your info is out there already. An ID card is not an automatic step towards implanting RFID chips as some have suggested and in a way i feel sorry for this and any other government as people want security they say they want control over immigration but a national ID card oh my god no my privacy it's stupid you want something you have to give a little.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501648)

The state wasn't the servant of the people back in the 50's, nor before.
Don't forget, in the 50's there were ID cards...

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501980)

Governments job is for the people they are there for us.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34502003)

You keep believing that, I hope it makes you feel warm and cosy.
Personally, I'll stick with looking at the evidence, which clearly shows that most governments are in it for themselves and their "friends" but not the people.
Sure, sometimes their actions benefit people, but that's normally just a happy coincidence.
Take the HMRC decision on removing tax from biofuels up to 2500L a year.
Your warm and fuzzy view of the government being for the people would suggest they did it to help reduce people's fuel bills and encourage carbon neutral energy production.
In reality it was because it cost more per duty payment than the payment itself for non-professional biofuel producers (like myself) and the government was in breach of the Kyoto treaty by making renewable fuels more expensive than fossil fuels.
So the government introduced the 2500L limit to exclude non-professional biofuel producers and thus save money, and also bring it's policies in line with the Kyoto treaty.
The happy coincidence is that the action saves me approx £1000 a year in fuel costs.

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502007)

thats the truth corse there not in it for the people, that is what governments were created for, i think someone missed a few history lessons.

but what i mean is there original purpose was exactly that, to be there for the people.

They are defying that n thus they must be removed

and stop waffling on about some bullshit aswell n be relevant.

i'm more against the governments in control than im sure anyone on this site.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34502008)

Yes, it does appear that you missed a few history lessons.
Perhaps you should take another look at the history of British governments, specifically who's government it is.
From your other posts, you won't like the answer.

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502017)

clearly not, im talking about back in rome, the purpose of a government leading all the way upto the modern day has been twisted.

We have been made to look upto authority as god of our reality while believing and being told we have freedom while they slowly take it away from us.

I assure i know history better than most. If you cant speak to me about sumeria i suggest its you who gets the history lesson.

As my understanding of history reaches way past 1 million years of this planet.

Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34501915)

Scapped due to a judge deciding that there was no state of emergency, and therefore no requirement for ID cards, not because of public protests.

Originally Posted by shawty (Post 34501891)

Because we live in a Country where big brother type things will not happen. In 25 years time, in 50 years time, we will find ourselfs (well not me) saying the same thing. Im also afraid to say if the NHS know if I do or dont smoke/drink and they know what my diet is like, I dont care if the gorverment know or not. Im telling you now, the goverment dont care what car I drive, why would they be bothered about it, if they were, they would have to be bothered on everybodys cars, how many is that? They are only bothered about cars that are being used illegally and such things like that. They dont care Im jumping in my Ford to drive to tesco, why would they.

If drinking alcohol ever became illegal, I wouldnt blame the gorverment, Id blame the people who cant control themselves on a night out. Middlesbrough isnt the best of places at the best of times, on the night time its horrendous due to the drug takers/drinkers not being able to handle themselves and the prostitutes.

Its time we stand up and stop blaming the goverment for everything, sure they are the cause of somethings, the only thing I see with this Country though is people cant lay the blame on themselves or their friends.

I bet, given the chance of running this Country, most people wouldnt know where to stand or what to do and even if they did, does not mean its going to be succesful.

Ive always said that for the 'average' person, they (the different paties trying to get in to run the country) are all as bad as each other. We would be know better/worse off either way because they always find another way to gain money from us.

I think some people need to sit up and all though we are not the best Country in the world, we are certainly not the worst, not by a long shot and some people need to think themselves lucky that we can sit here and actually talk about and maybe do something about the policies the goverment want to bring in.

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34502017)

I assure i know history better than most. If you cant speak to me about sumeria i suggest its you who gets the history lesson.

As my understanding of history reaches way past 1 million years of this planet.

Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 34501168)

So the Government has decided to put even more data at risk and package it in a small easy to lose device. No doubt the Lib Dems will sit on the fence over this one as well, Lets face it just like Europe this is important enough to require a vote in the house.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7280495.stm

Problem with the unelected pretender Brown is that he says one thing and then does the opposite. Therefor the fact he hinted this



Does not fill me with a warm feeling of trust :LOL:

Originally Posted by THESHAOLIN1 (Post 34501980)

...I bet most of you would line up to get microchipped.....

Originally Posted by tweetypie/8 (Post 34502099)

i cant understand what all the fuss is about,here in n.ireland we have always had photographic id on our driving licences and in the bad old days of bombings were asked regularly for id and were subject to body searches and had no choice in the matter.