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Chrysalis 29-01-2007 11:43

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
I am talking about matt's specific situation, to temporarily plug into his master socket and check the stats. If they improve then he has found the culprit and can then do a more permament fix by removing the ring wire.

Tezcatlipoca 31-01-2007 23:07

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but will do.



Got home today, to find a card from Parceline.

Failed delivery attempt for the Sky router.

They're gonna try again tomorrow...which is fairly useless, as Ally & I will both be at work. Which is the only time they deliver. Convenient.

When I ordered it last week, I did ask the Sky person on the phone if they could deliver it to a different address to the home/billing address, and he said no as it was "too late". Too late? Muppet never asked me at any point during the call if I wanted it sent somewhere else, never gave me an option, & then when I do ask, it's "too late". Do they really expect people to normally be at home "between 8am & 5pm" on weekdays?

Can't pick it up from the Parceline depot - Peterborough.

May have to phone up & pay for a Saturday delivery :rolleyes:

Just hope we get it before the line switches over!

Tezcatlipoca 03-02-2007 19:15

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Got the router now. Just waiting on the migration/activation... should allegedly take place on Monday.


Hooked up my current router to the BT master socket yesterday, as suggested by Chrysalis.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netgear DG834G v2 connected to BT master socket
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 2272 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 40 db 12.5 db
Noise Margin 17 db 29 db


Definite improvement on the 10db noise margin I had via the extension when I checked the stats last week.


So I then connected it back up to the extension as normal, & checked the stats again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Netgear DG834G v 2 connected to extension socket
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 2272 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 39 db 12.5 db
Noise Margin 17 db 28 db


Odd :confused:


The stats are pretty much identical via master or extension - & the noise margin is for some reason better than it was when I checked a week ago: 10db on 26th Jan, 17db now.

dragon 03-02-2007 21:33

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34212465)
Got the router now. Just waiting on the migration/activation... should allegedly take place on Monday.


Hooked up my current router to the BT master socket yesterday, as suggested by Chrysalis.




Definite improvement on the 10db noise margin I had via the extension when I checked the stats last week.


So I then connected it back up to the extension as normal, & checked the stats again.




Odd :confused:


The stats are pretty much identical via master or extension - & the noise margin is for some reason better than it was when I checked a week ago: 10db on 26th Jan, 17db now.

Could be to do with the weather? or maybe you knocked the extension wiring when you took the faceplate off and fixed a lose connection (unlikely but possible)

Tezcatlipoca 03-02-2007 21:52

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Haven't touched the faceplate though...

dragon 03-02-2007 22:04

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34212548)
Haven't touched the faceplate though...

could be weather i guess... changes in temprature, humidity amount of rain, wind.

depending ofcouse if its Underground cable or not...

Tezcatlipoca 05-02-2007 23:57

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Activation took place today, bang on time.

Set up the "Sky Broadband Box" (Netgear DG834GT) this evening.


Seems more like "up to 8mbps" than "up to 16mbps" though...last couple of speed tests I did were around 4meg.

Chrysalis 06-02-2007 15:11

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Matt what I should have told you to do is take the faceplate off and try the test socket, as this bypasses all the extenstion cabling stuff.

It should be easy, 2 screws come off and the front comes off like a lego piece, behind that you see another socket like the socket on the faceplate, plugin the router there as normal and see if the stats improve.

If they do then you need to do a more permenant fix in removing the ringwire.

The 4mbit you getting isnt a big shock considering your noise margin. :( Welcome to the world of adsl where its entirely possible to only burst to a fraction of the max speed.

Tezcatlipoca 06-02-2007 23:25

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Speed test from this evening, of my "up to 16meg" Sky BB connection:

http://www.dslzoneuk.net/speedtest/s....php?id=425823


I'll do some more, using different sites/tests, through the week.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 34214378)
The 4mbit you getting isnt a big shock considering your noise margin. :( Welcome to the world of adsl where its entirely possible to only burst to a fraction of the max speed.


I know.


:erm: I wish I had ntl :(



To stop me hijacking this thread any more for my noise issues, I've started a new one (so this one can stay more Sky BB specific, rather than have me drag it off even more):

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?t=33607542

hardtarget 07-02-2007 10:45

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
You are around 1.53 kilometres from your exchange

Central 07-02-2007 12:07

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hardtarget (Post 34214966)
You are around 1.53 kilometres from your exchange



Yay?

downquark1 20-02-2007 07:42

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Since moved to a non-cable area having to get sky TV and an ADSL. Any reason to avoid sky BB? What do people recommend?

Central 20-02-2007 15:24

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 34226801)
Since moved to a non-cable area having to get sky TV and an ADSL. Any reason to avoid sky BB? What do people recommend?

Be unlimited

Tezcatlipoca 20-02-2007 16:05

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 34226801)
Since moved to a non-cable area having to get sky TV and an ADSL. Any reason to avoid sky BB? What do people recommend?


I moved to a non-cable area a year ago, & went with Firefly ADSL. Pricey compared to Sky & others with subsidised deals, but the service & the customer service were top notch.


Switched to Sky Broadband a couple of weeks ago, when my Firefly contract ran out.


No problems so far (apart from some noise/speed issues I'd have had with any ADSL ISP offering more than 2mbps via ADSL Max or LLU).


It's insanely cheap. £10/month for "up to" 16mbps download, 768kbps upload, & "unlimited" usage (subject to FUP).


Only able to stretch about 8-9mbps out of my line, 'cos of noise & attenuation, but still happy to pay the tenner for the "Max" service. Could've gone with the "Mid" service (up to 8mbps) for £5/month, but the upload is lower (400ish kbps IIRC) & it's capped at 40GB/month.

The free Sky branded router is pretty good...it's a Netgear DG834GT (I was previously using a DG834G with Firefly).


I have heard that the Sky Broadband customer service is pretty pants, although I haven't had to deal with them yet. Still, I had ntl Broadband for over 5 years, & although the service itself was almost always rock solid, the CS/TS was often poor (hence getting help via here when I needed it).


Have a read around http://www.ispreview.co.uk/, http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ (formerly ADSLGuide UK), & http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/ (kind of a Sky equivalent to CF).

downquark1 20-02-2007 16:11

Re: SKY broadband 16mbit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Be* (Post 34227221)
Be unlimited

According to this site:http://www.samknows.com/broadband/index.php Be is not going to be supported by my exchange for a few months while sky is already there (not sure if this site is reliable, just found it).

My current thinking is to get sky because of the package deals since we are getting their core tv package too.

That being said dunno when we set it up, at uni currently so can't nag, I mean advise. ;). So might change.


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