Originally Posted by popper (Post 34141250)

i think its reasonable to assume that by 2010 WiMax will be widespread if the industry has anything to do with it and hence that last mile will be covered, thats one of the reasons why i advocate wireless as standard in future stb's etc.

Originally Posted by themelon (Post 34141159)

What about the last Mile for 21st Century Network?

I still have my 100 year old piece of speaker wire dangling (very loosely I might add) from a telephone pole. It along with many others round here is aniquated anddoesnt look to have been maintainined since the days of the ark. Are BT going to replace this and the rest of the antiquated equipment in the final mile?

I can't honestly see them laying/hanging ethernet to the home, or even a new twisted pair to every house in the UK.

Closest 21st CN Will come to the home is the exchange or maybe the street cabinets, but thats going to need 1980/90 Cable company road digging powers! Which is unlikley

All I hope is that the new technology is not as reliant on distance from the exchange and quality of cabling in the last mile, as I cant see how it will make much difference.

The BT Line in my old house was crap, BT refused to replace it unless I paid for it, so what has changed?

BT already have perfectly good equipment in the exchanges at present, Its the final mile that lets it down, and I can not see how this is going to change. Only houses in new build developments will have the full effect.

BT have yet to get ADSL right if you live more than 1 mile from the exchange, BT Said they would release VOD this summer, I am yet to see it working. BT Said they would install 4 ISDN Lines at my work 33 days ago and promised it within 10 but can not deliver due to technical issues.

BT persists in talking complete and utter B/S as always, I would be very pleasantly surprised to see any of the current suggestions working by 2010 let alon 21st CN

BT (Its good to talk (utter ****e that is)

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34141317)

Where cable falls over and is at the moment is the reliance on proxy servers :( which is making them look crap at the moment.

Originally Posted by FCC (Post 34141343)

Oversubscribed ubrs? congested network?

Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34141317)

You only have to read the posts i made about BT to see that they are the same bunch of incompetent idiots that they where 8 years ago when i had my last run in with them. Nothing as changed including the Noah's Ark technology and "i like this " Speaker wire connection :). BT have to totaly change the way they connect to the customer before they will get any better speeds.

I am willing to place a bet here. Cable will out perform BT for a very long time when it comes to Broadband. There i have said it.

Where cable falls over and is at the moment is the reliance on proxy servers :( which is making them look crap at the moment.

Originally Posted by Creative (Post 34141140)

The 1.8T Audi TT and the Skoda Octavia VRS have the same engine. :D

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 34140528)

Yeah, but they maintain theirs, proactivley, we just firefight, but who knows?.. From what I've seen so far, TW seem to be more customer orientated, instead of the ntl way where they are treat subs like a hinderance!! So things may get better, we'll see

Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34143686)

Maybe, but you loook at the outside of where I live, splitters just dangling in midair and you wonder. I'll post a picture if I am there in daylight to take it.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 34141240)

seems I was wrong about 21cn the docs rlsed by BT have no mention of fibre in the local loops meaning less then half will see anything above 8mbit on adsl2+. Its a possibility for sure now in 2011 when bt are still finishing of 21cn they still relying on copper local loops. My area isnt getting 21cn until Q2 2010.