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Re: Al-Qaeda "poisoner" gets life in prison

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Originally Posted by BBKing

me283 is, again, grossly ignorant of the facts of the case he's trying to make, which unfortunately isn't surprising if you just read the headlines and listen to the Government. You can see why they want to lock people up without trial or evidence if the trials are going to be this embarrassing and it's so obvious they're framing innocent people.

Unfortunately, as neither you nor I were there, and probably neither of us was in court for the trial, we both have to rely upon what is reported. Obviously our sources are different. I'm not sure why you accuse me of being "ignorant of the facts" when we are both leaning towards what we have seen or heard reported. Or were you there?
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Originally Posted by BBKing

Apart from 'arrestation' not being a word, this is true. He's a brutal murderer, not a terrorist, as I said earlier in the thread. Talking of which:

"Arrestation" is a word that I have heard used. I could have used "arresting" in the passive gerundive if you prefer, or if you which to be pedantic?
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Originally Posted by BBKing

I think this is the first mention of Hitler in this thread. I thereby declare that the conditions for Godwin's Law have been met and that this discussion is over, and me283 has lost.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

Well, if you are looking for a "win" then good luck to you. I'm on here to discuss and debate, not to score points. But that probably says more about you than it does about me...
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Originally Posted by cookie_365

Hang on, I think we're arguing at cross purposes.

My point is that killing is just wrong. I accept that there are times when it's, well, not 'right' but tolerable when it's the only way to stop more people being killed, (WWII, Iraq etc, see previous caveats).

But I'm disgusted by the notion of killing someone for fun or for vengeance.

Announcing that someone is 'sub-human' and therefore a suitable target for murder is just sick. Anyone who does that is no better than the person they want to kill. Sub-human perhaps?

Look at Israel/Palestine:

A Palestinian murders an Israeli. Why?
Because an Israeli murdered a Palestinian. Why?
Because a Palestinian murdered an Israeli. Why?
Because an Israeli murdered a Palestinian. Why?
Because a Palestinian murdered an Israeli. Why?
etc etc etc.

I don't disagree with you, and the Israeli/Palestinian concept is a very good analogy, but I don't think it quite fits here. What if, for example, you were to say:

Man kills 1000 innocent people and maims 300 more; he goes to court and gets a jail term; 15 years later he gets out and decides to exact revenge by killing as many more as possible... GThe numbers are theoretical, but the concept isn't.

And I oppose vengeance killing with a... vengeance I suppose :) . But I truly believe that the death sentence not only removes the lowest element from society, but also deters others from crossing the line into that element.

Re: Al-Qaeda "poisoner" gets life in prison

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Originally Posted by BBKing

You guys really ought to check out what's written out there:

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In addition, whoever points out that Godwin's law applies to the thread is also considered to have "lost" the battle, as it is considered poor form to invoke the law explicitly.

Looks like there are only 'losers'... :)

Re: Al-Qaeda "poisoner" gets life in prison

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior

You guys really ought to check out what's written out there:

Looks like there are only 'losers'... :)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...3&postcount=73

DOH!!!

Re: Al-Qaeda "poisoner" gets life in prison

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Originally Posted by danielf

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...3&postcount=73

DOH!!!

Indeed. What happens when you pile into the tail of a thread. lol.
It was so funny I just had to post!

Re: Al-Qaeda "poisoner" gets life in prison

mmm ... maxine carr in a PVC SS uniform and swastika bedsheets, a webcam and a video chatroom for nun's ... now thats erotic! ... roll on Godwin!

Anyway, back to the topic, I think this chap, mainly because he killed someone should spend a long time in jail. I feel we have a duty to try and rehabilitate him into a productive member of society. although the fact that he's an illegal immigrant colours my view on that ... yes, i'm afraid i'm a little tribal in that i don't feel he's 'one of us'. but thats a different issue.

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Looks like there are only 'losers'...

Not really - danielf is last man standing. Have a chocolate egg.