Re: Mum had sex with son
 

Government. That is not morality though. The case is easy to make: minors can't consent. Adults can. Has got nothing to do with morality.

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I thought I heard the gentle twang of a banjo, look everyone it's our morally challenged aquaintance from Canuckland. What words of wisdom do you offer us today Jerrek?
What has adultery got to do with a mother having sex with her son? In some parts of the world you can be punished for drinking alcohol but thats got just as little to do with this thread as your argument ;)
I do hope that you are a minority Jerrek, for the sake of the Canadian gene pool :D

Now let's get back to the original topic..... (ala Jerry Springer)
Incest, a family affair

Re: Mum had sex with son
 

Of course it has, is it morally right to molest a child? Yes or no, no waffle, no flannel, just yes or no.

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You didn't actually address any of my points. Way to go.

Re: Mum had sex with son
 

:rolleyes: im sure you say things to provoke reactions....

the point of it is its wrong because the sister/brother are made up of the same genetic inheritance, ie they have genes inherited from the mother and father, they are your blood relations in that respect.

its not just about the moral aspect, as other people said its genetics, just to even think about it is sick.

and you forget the majority makes the laws.

Re: Mum had sex with son
 

why cant you just accept that it is wrong , or is it a common thing in canada :erm: , is it something that happens and is socially acceptable over there , somehow i think not ;)

Re: Mum had sex with son
 

What, can't you see? Do I need to spell it out?

You guys are advocating government legislating morality. Then, you fully support and condone the act of executing people for adultary in a culture where the government mandated it to be illegal and punishable by death. (The punishment is irrelevant, so don't drag this into the discussion.)

I hold the opposite view. Government should NOT legislate morality because it infringes on individual rights.

If two consenting adults have a relationship, who are YOU to say they can't?

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by two consenting adults i sencerely hope you don't include a mother and a son

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For all purposes then, consider a homosexual relationship where there is no chance of a baby. Your argument falls flat on its face then.

And, something that is sick to YOU may not be sick to someone else. I know of plenty of things YOU may find sick but I don't, and I'm positive that there are things YOU may find cool and I find sick.

Re: Mum had sex with son
 

Jerrek this argument is NOT about morality. What has gone on here is ABUSE - pure and simple.
Why can you not see that?

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a person morally shouldn't have a homosexual relationship then
It is all about personal opinion but i am strongly against homosexuality, however i don't mind it, i just don't feel it right

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You have the issue that while that adult was still a child, it could have been groomed into becoming a sexual partner for the parent/grandparent.
When the sexual act takes place, it's between two consenting adults, but that could be because the offspring was brought up to be that, rather than having a free choice.

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IIRC in cases like this, the government (in our country, and presumably the United States and Canada) often creates laws to represent the morality of the time. Therefore, in this case, morality controls the law, not the other way around.

Anyway, I haven't read any bill of rights, but I am sure that having sex with your mother is not one of them.

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So when it becomes legal his free choice is suddenly gone and mind control sets in?

Um...




No.


What about brother/brother? Sister/sister?

I'm not talking of abuse. There was no abuse. Two consenting adults.

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This is nothing to do with two consenting adults having a relationship Jerrek so don't even try to drag same sex relationships into this argument.
So in your eyes its okay for a father to coerce his daughter into believing that a relationship with him is ok and therefor he should be allowed to sleep with her and maybe get her pregnant?
Years of behavioural shaping can lead to people having opinions that ordinarily they may not have had.
Cults have been able to lead their members to believe anything they say through various means for years, does that mean that the cults are right and the rest of us are wrong?
Just because this subject touches on an area that you believe in strongly for your own reasons it does not mean that you can justify what the mother did.