Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

There are actually only a few people claiming to sell chipped boxes and a few more offering a filter that they claim stops the return path of the box and so allows the watching of PPV events without paying.

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

who would buy an ntl broadband instalation disc ? LOL!

But yes, they need to be stopped. Half the problem though, is ntl never bothering to pick the boxes up after someones cancelled...

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

NTL (And Telewest) have been ludicrously incompetent on this - maybe you'd report someone stealing a car, but if you saw someone leave their car overnight in Brixton with the door open and keys in, and it got stolen, you'd hardly have much sympathy...

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

I have learnt that the chipped boxes go off line when ntl change the encryption keys. They do this about every 6 months. So all the people with chipped boxes have to pay to get them redone/ or for a new card.

"Why don't they do it weekly/monthly" did I hear you ask? That would stop all the piracy you say? Yes it would, problem is the software on the Pace boxes is sooo sh**e that half the genuine boxes switch off aswell

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

Mind you, Telewest seem to be better on the box front that ntl. I searched for some Telewest boxes yesterday (out of pure investigation and curiousity, mind :D ) and although there were a few on there, there were not as many as ntl.

Unless there is an underground market for hacked TW boxes in the local rag that is ... :erm:

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

Maybe they've tightened up - I know someone who used to work in TW stores - back then, engineers could just request as many STBs as they wanted with no tie-up to customer orders. Big police operation after they figured out this was not a very good idea, and several engineers busted.

Re: NTL customers breaking the law
 

My Uncle had a chipped analogue ntl STB. Think it cost him £100. He got all the channels, but it broke after a couple of weeks and the fella who sold him it was nowhere to be found :)

I've had ntl for about 4 years myself and pay a ridiculous amount of money to them. On average about £110 a month, got movies and sport, 600k and an extra 2 boxes. I can see why folk would want to get a chipped box. Thing that annoys me is that I can't just buy the channels I watch. I've gotta buy a 100 channels I'm not interested in to get the one I watch.

Anyway, if I had a chipped box I'd lay awake at night worrying about it :) Some folk I just just don't care what they illegal stuff they do. Would be good if NTL were able to track these people as it surely impacts on the service the rest of us get.