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Downstream 802 Kbps (100.3 KB/sec) 866 Kbps (inc. overheads) Upstream 322 Kbps (40.3 KB/sec) 347 Kbps (inc. overheads)
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soz if this has already been asked.
im on 2 meg in Stevenage with an ntl 200 silver modem. If I upgrade to 10meg using the ntl upgrade website: Will I get 10 meg? Will I get it immediately? Will I be able to downgrade back to the 24:99 option (10meg with 50gig cap) once it becomes available? Or will I have to pay 37.99 for 12 months minimum? Thanks. |
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Well Thanks to this site i have the 10meg,wouldnt of known without reading here,ntl staff spot-on came out changed the modem to the 250 as i had the 100,as i wasnt here the wife was she let him put the pc on make sure it worked properly before he left.
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nb. until sometime in 2006 when 2meg is changed to 10meg with a useage allowance/cap.
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Just got upgraded from an extremely helpful chap named calvin, ntl should hire more people like him!
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I was walking through town today with a friend and he asked a woman selling ntl if she knew anything about the speed upgrades. She said this:
There are 3 new speeds coming out to replace the old ones, 1Mbps will become 6Mbps, 2Mbps will become 8Mbps and 3Mbps will become 10Mbps. 2Mbps customers should see an upgrade by the end of March next year. Is she right or just fobbing me off? 8Mbps would be brilliant for me. (Im on 2Mbps at the moment) |
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Hmm, ok. She did sound convincing though. But 10Mbps for all is even better iin some cases and worse in others...
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Ambit 120 modem in Luton.
Just re-booted - received the latest firmware file - ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr. Then ran a speed test, no change from yesterday !!! Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:41:22 UTC 1st 128K took 266 ms = 492752 Bytes/sec = approx 4100 kbits/sec 2nd 128K took 281 ms = 466448 Bytes/sec = approx 3881 kbits/sec 3rd 128K took 265 ms = 494611 Bytes/sec = approx 4115 kbits/sec 4th 128K took 266 ms = 492752 Bytes/sec = approx 4100 kbits/sec |
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OK, phoned NTL an hour ago, mixed results since.
Ive been upgraded to 10mb at their end.. "its a trial" said the CS chappie.. okaaaaay I said ;) He told me to wait for an hour then to reboot both my modem and PC. Ive rebooted after that hour has gone (also did my router too) and no luck, still at 3mb... This is how my modem log is looking... 051117185253 8-Debug M571.6 CM Cert Upgrade Enabled. Initiate via SNMP 051117185253 8-Debug M571.9 Missing CM Cert Upgrade TLVs. 051117185253 8-Debug M570.1 Motorola CM certificate required 051117185253 8-Debug I503.0 Cable Modem is OPERATIONAL 051117185252 8-Debug F502.1 Bridge Forwarding Enabled. 051117185252 8-Debug F502.3 Bridge Learning Enabled. 051117185252 8-Debug B918.0 Baseline Privacy is skipped 051117185251 7-Information X519.8 Unit Update - GGFGGD - SCD flags 051117185251 8-Debug I500.1 DOCSIS 1.0 Registration Completed 051117185251 7-Information I500.4 Attempting DOCSIS 1.0 Registration 051117185251 7-Information D509.0 Retrieved TFTP Config File SUCCESS 051117185251 7-Information D507.0 Retrieved Time....... SUCCESS ************ 7-Information D511.0 Retrieved DHCP .......... SUCCESS ************ 5-Warning D3.0 DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response ************ 4-Error D530.8 DHCP - Invalid Log Server IP Address. ************ 5-Warning D520.2 DHCP Attempt# 1 BkOff: 5s Tot DSC:1 OFF:1 REQ:1 ACK:1 ************ 7-Information D0.0 DHCP CM Net Configuration download and Time of Day ************ 7-Information T500.0 Acquired Upstream .......... SUCCESS ************ 8-Debug T503.1 Acquire US with status OK, powerLevel 39, tempSid 267 ************ 8-Debug T505.0 Acquired Upstream with status OK ************ 7-Information T501.0 Acquired Downstream (402750000 Hz)........ SUCCESS ************ 8-Debug T509.0 Acquired DS with status OK, DS Freq 402750000, US Id 1 ************ 7-Information I510.0 *** BOOTING *** SB4100-0.4.9.4-SCM02-NOSH |
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just rebooted, nothing, same old firmware ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr
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Wots the web address to upgrade again?
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Just tried rebooting and still on the old firmware. Phoned CS and they said that they're not upgrading existing customers till December, what a load of bs!
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Ambit 120 modem in Coventry.
Just re-booted - received the latest firmware file - ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr. Then ran a speed test!!! Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:22:40 GMT 1st 128K took 110 ms = 1191564 Bytes/sec = approx 9914 kbits/sec 2nd 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec 3rd 128K took 109 ms = 1202495 Bytes/sec = approx 10005 kbits/sec 4th 128K took 110 ms = 1191564 Bytes/sec = approx 9914 kbits/sec So it seems to have worked for me :) |
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There are some horrid support on NTL phones, just spent 40minutes on phone to them to try and get the trial.
1. Standard customer support, awesome guy tried his hardest to get me upgraded to 10mb trial but said he did not have the tools to do so and put me through to technical. 2. Technical, useless git who sounded like he did not want to help or be there, said he cannot do upgrades from technical and put me through to standard support again. 3. Standard again, another idiot, asked if I had a blue box, said no have a surfboard 3100, he told me he cannot upgrade me and to call to cancel my account and state that I wanted 10mb, they should then upgrade me rather than lose me as a customer but can only ring them between 9-5. LOL @ NTL support telling me to cancel my account to get what I want, very sad. |
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Is in anybody in Luton getting anything like 10 mb ?
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Im suppose to be on 10 meg ntl
have an ambit 100 ntl modem config file name is... Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm100_ntl0002.cpr dont get any faster than 4-6 meg any ideas? |
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retry your speed test at 3am - when the network is under least use.
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2mbit before - pretty stable on the whole...
10mbit upgrade - Speeds went from 512K speed to 5mbit New flash rom upgrade to SB4100 - speeds are pretty constant at 2-3mbit, most i see tonight so far was 4mbit (whoa)... Now for all those speed testing, seeing crap results - every man, woman and child (and his dog) will be either downloading or speed testing to see that Magic 10mbit speed - this in turn will flood the network / UBR and thus slow speeds. As per the Advice above really - either leave it for a few days to let it all settle down or try very late at night / early in the morning. If the speeds are still crap then again, I suggest you leave it a few days to allow for the Upgrade on NTL end to take place (I assume they are installing something to give all 10mbit)... Question is - what is the rush to have 10mbit right now? do you have a urgent file to grab and need it like yesterday? Do you just want to see the download speeds say 10mbit (or close to)? It will happen as proven by the modem upgrades of late and more people posting with faster speeds. |
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1 - For those who got 'ignore provisioning upgrade' that looks to me you wont get the new firmware and if I remember right its a read only setting from the user's end, so I would get an engineer for that or at least ring TS.
2 - For those who got new firmware and still get 5-6mbit try setting the modem to 100mbit duplex manually or just choose auto sense and see if it improves things. |
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my modem is going to have a accident real soon.
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I want to check my cable modem configuration and I believe the address starts 192 but after that I cannot remember
Can someone tell me what it is |
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So we can ring CS up, ask for a the upgrade and should we go over the cap we dont get charged any more then the 38 quid were paying now ?
how did you guys word it when asking for the uograde ?... :angel: |
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When logging into the Upgrade page i get this error;
Unable to identify the cable modem MAC (or Ethernet) address. Please reboot your PC and Cable Modem and try again. If you need further help, please contact our customer support (0800 052 2000). tryed rebooting etc, Anyone got any ideas? |
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Im not a setup box, Cable just goes straight into pc via Ethernet :erm:
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Any techy people have any more information on these options? TA! I just wish NTL would publish information along the lines of what areas have been upgraded and people are allowed to go to 10meg and what areas havent. I remember a conversation I had with a senior NTL person a while back now saying that I would be amoungst the first group of people to get 10meg :( :( :( |
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lol, yeah my letter said i would be 1st to have 10meg also, at this rate i'll be last.
What with my account showing 10meg at NTL's end and my NTL home 120 modem still on old firmware with Software Upgrade AdminStatus : ignoreProvisioningUpgrade , i get the feeling that IF and WHEN they do a automatic switchon that i'll get missed |
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I'd take a risk there and toggle off that 'ignore' setting.
update:- I've just checked mine and you can't change it! mine is set as "Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade" |
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Well, I still havent received my speed boost up to 10mb from 3mb after my phone call to NTL at 18:30 last night, after they had told me to reboot my PC after about an hour.
My log is still displaying reboot entries identical to that of the previous page, no obvious file has been downloaded to my modem.. Any suggesions? Thanks Dan |
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Good news, very helpful person this morning ;) , upgraded me to 10meg and new firmware for NTL120home modem, was done within 2 mins.
A big :tu: up to you! |
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Finally got it after much of a do... had my samsung box swapped yesterday for a ntl:250 SACM I was told last week that the sammy would absolutely NOT be able to take 10mb... then was told the sammy WILL absolutely be able to take it as soon as the config file was ready! I had to take charge and sort it myself! lol... I am in salford/manchester and here are a few of the speed tests I have done one after the other from here
Your line speed: 10200 Kbps 1250 K bytes/sec Your line speed: 9251.7 Kbps 1133.8 K bytes/sec Your line speed: 6800 Kbps 833.3 K bytes/sec Your line speed: 9272.7 Kbps 1136.4 K bytes/sec Your line speed: 5746.5 Kbps 704.2 K bytes/sec |
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I've just spoken to ntl CS (Scottish call centre) and was told that they are still conducting regional trials and that any upgrades may be only temporary and speeds would fluctuate for those who had been upgraded , although he did say that all 3meg customers would have a permanent upgrade by the end of the year.
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When NTL decide that you need a speed change (downgrade OR upgrade) they send a signal to your modem to go to allowProvisioningUpgrade then either send a signal to reboot or ask you to reboot. Modem reboots and checks server for a new firmware/software downloads installs and reboots. So, if you are set to ignoreProvisioningUpgrade you are at the hands of NTL untill they decide you are allowed the upgrade. If you have allowProvisioningUpgrade, REBOOT! as you just be have been permitted to the upgrade. I may be completely wrong and probably are but what do others think? Reference: http://seclists.org/lists/vuln-dev/2002/Mar/0161.html Reference: http://rfc.slim.summitmedia.co.uk/rfc2669.html |
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Just spoke to a nice bloke in the welsh call centre who says that 'I will do that for you, please hold the line, came back a min later and said thats been done your upgraded to 10mb'.
Ive reset my modem (150) but the increase hasnt happened yet, how long does it take for the new config to be sent to the modem?. when i login to my modem what do i need to look for in the configuration pages/status pages to indicate that the new config file has come through? Cheers. |
Samsung Settop boxes and 10mbs
Ok here goes my first post... I have been reading the site for ages and decided, today, now is the time to contribute.
I gave the 0800 number a call this morning, having tried a tier migration last night. I'm told by the chappy on the phone that most places have cable modems except this one (East Cheshire). He went on to say that the STBs from Samsung were not able to do 10Mbs and that he would send an engineer (Tuesday next week). The engineer will fit me a cable modem. I did have to fill in a new direct debit mandate - strange ! Anyway thought the above may be of intrest to someone... A good friend (also a reader of this board), in the same area, phoned 2 minutes after me and was told that he will get a new STB, 10MBS enabled, in December. Be good. PlanBee |
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Anyone upgraded to 10Mb in the Belfast area yet on 120 modem?? Keep loosing service here!
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every time i check my modem event log i notice i have loads of errors some saying that they are critical, anyone else getting this ?, should i ring TS and ask them or is this normal during Network optimisation, i have ntl250 modem i think , it's the little blue one anyone else with this modem getting this????
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Phoned NTL CS 3 times today got the following conflicting answers -
#1 - Samsung STB can support 10meg, its in my area, we can't volunteer ourselfs to be upgraded... #2 - Only cable modems can get it, STB's will get it next year #3 - STB's CAN'T support it, will need to get a cable modem WTF?!? I find it stupid how they upgraded us from the PACE STB's to the Samsung STB's only to replace them all with cable modems for the ppl wanting 10megs. Anyone been upgraded by CS who's on a STB ? if so what did you say to them? (and possibly the name of the person you spoke to) |
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I have a samsung and was told no it cant do 10meg, so i got my SACM installed this morning and it was automatically on 10meg when it registered whoo hooo!! I am in the North Manchester/Lancashire Border
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DAMMIT!! Location: Dorset, Bournemouth
Modem: NTL 200 Home Downstream5044 Kbps (630.5 KB/sec)5447 Kbps (inc. overheads)Upstream491 Kbps (61.4 KB/sec)530 Kbps (inc. overheads) Source: ADSLGuide.org NOT MINE THOUGH !! now finally today they have upgraded my firmware :D i checked yesterday was version 1 now says 2 :D alas with my 120 there is no change YET!!! talk about TEASING!!! |
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phoned NTL CS this morning and enquired about 10Mb
I was told by a nice lady that she can upgrade me but due work in the area I may only receive 4 or 5Mb now upgraded downloading at 1.17Mb a Second Thanks NTL By the way I am in the Coventry Area |
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finally was tempted to call CS for a upgrade (all u 10mb users grrr)
a nice lady told me it was on trial and saying i would most likely not get 10mb but should get upto 8mb doesnt sounds like she wanted to upgraded me but i asked if i can trial it she said she'll try and upgrade me after a couple of mins she said the system wont let her and said maybe my area aint updated/upgraded or something told me i should keep trying calling back once in awhile to see if i could get upgraded btw im in Bournemouth with a NTL 120 modem and still using ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr firmware with allowProvisioningUpgrade (tried restarting SACM) should every NTL 120 SACM been updated?? |
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Rang back today and im sure i spoke to a lady that said no the other day but she done me the upgrade and im now getting host in most games on halo 2.
thank you ntl |
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Im in the NN1 area (Northampton) I just called and spoke to Emma (scotland i think) And she upgraded me no problems
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Here is an interesting experiment for anyone with an Ambit120 modem who's not a chicken like me. Visit http://192.168.100.1/P_engineer.htm Change the image name from `ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr` to `ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr` and click the SUBMIT button. I'm wondering if that would force a download of the upgraded firmware and hopefully pick-up the 10Mb service profile.
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My SACM is behind a LinkSys router and when I go to that page I'm presented with a page titled `Engineer Page for Downloading Image`. It has the TFTP server IP address pre-typed as 62.253.189.100 and the image name pre-typed as `ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr`. Below that two buttons. Left button is RESET and right button is SUBMIT. |
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Whats the difference from a Warm restart of the modem (using the configuration screen) and a Cold restart (unplugging the modem power) and does anyone have any technical info about these cable modems and how they work?
Once i get started with things i need to know it all! haha! EDIT: or any information on the even log and error messages? guess i am asking for an engineers handbook or something ;) |
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When i try to go to the link i use root/root and get the Page Error. I have a 120SACM and ntlhm120_ntl0001.cpr oh well i still plan to call ntl again tonight to discuss some technical aspects of the cable modem and 10meg and all that with them. Hopes I get a techy person on the line. |
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oh well i just did a Warm Start and guess what! ntlhm120_ntl0002.cpr!!
Still 3meg but I am calling them tonight now! |
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DONT change anything then do Save and Reset Cable Modem ;) EDIT: its handy for me as i can reset my modem over VNC whilst at work |
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I have the new firmware after doing a power down but still no speed upgrade. This is getting boring now :o:
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Well, Im starting to get messed around with.. just spent 15 minutes on the phone to CS to see what was going on with my 10mb upgrade (they said they had upgraded my service this time last night but nothings happened)..
I was told the "nothing happening till December" story.. Im going to give retentions a call. |
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Unlike some here I haven't bombarded ntl cs with multiple calls for the 10MB upgrade. I called once on the 8th and was told it was a trial and for new customers only. I wasn't happy as I'd read on here that people already had 10MB and I told ntl that I'd been a customer for 15 years and it wasn't right that new customers or customers on lower tiers got preferntial treatment. Still the answer was no.
Well, I've been pretty patient and I've read the comments on here re the older modems. I have a armbit120 and got the new firmware today. To cut the story short, phoned ntl cs today asked if my area, Romford could get the new 10MB speeds. After 1 minute of checking, the nice lady said yes and was done straight away. Considering its peak time, I'm getting on average around 5MB. Well worth the 2nd phone call. Edit: now around 8mb:) Not bad for a "trial". |
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Well. I didnt bombard NTL CS,
Just made my third call, and thanks to the helpfull chap there (who had seen my account had been changed to 10mb.. but they hadnt sent my modem the configuration file).. My modem was rebooting and up to 10mb before I had replaced the handset!! So.. If CS had sent me the config file the first time, I would have done it in one call :) |
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hmm just spoke to CS who after telling me nothing was happening till december decided that he would upgrade me.
Rebooted modem and still on 3 meg. was i told a pack of lies??? ... |
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Just checked again after a reboot, I now have the firmware upgrade.
Just need to wait for them to roll it out to my area now... |
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I've just called CS and went through to a Scottish call centre. I explained I called a week ago and was informed I could have the upgrade and I was recently given the firmware update for my modem.
After a couple of minutes looking through the system he informed me I was upgraded on the billing system but not given the upgrade. Within a further 30 seconds he upgraded my modem to 10mb. I was very calm and polite on the phone and that wouldn't of changed if he said I couldn't have it but I would of requested to be moved back to 2mb for the time being if I couldn't have it. I thanked him very much. Maybe you should speak to someone from the Scottish call centre. First speed test shows: Downstream7179 Kbps (897.4 KB/sec)7753 Kbps (inc. overheads) Upstream497 Kbps (62.1 KB/sec)536 Kbps (inc. overheads) It's not 10mb but I don't really care that much, it's a lot more that 2/3mb and it will no doubt get better as they tweak the system. Good luck!! By-the-way :PP: ;) |
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Right.
Im in Coventry and just finished talking to a nice lad called Patrick in Scotland. He upgraded me without a problem, but Im using an NTL: Home 100 modem. It shows 10meg in my Operational Config but I read here the 100's could not support this ? First download was off nvdia.com at 1.1meg a second, now Im lucky to get 300k (same as when I was on 3meg) Help plzzzzz |
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You know this is actually getting frustrated.
Frustrated that I dont yet have an upgrade - NO. Simply frustrated that different people are told different information and some get it and some dont. I really think that a letter to NTL is coming to tell them to get their staff informed better. Not that it will do any good as they never seem to reply to any of my correspondance :( |
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