Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You'll not get TNT on any offer. I got Mega TV with sky sports and movies in HD with Netflix and second box for £64 in Nov 2022 and they renewed it in March this year for the same price just losing TNT. Gig1 too. So bargain hard but never rude

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I think TNT is now £18 as an add on so you could have the lot for £82 if you wanted. That's a really decent price.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

TNT is available on some offers - you just need to get the right person willing to do it for you - or know how. But they may be irrelivent soon.

Call three times and decline each and you'll get three different offers.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I am sure you are correct, Sky meeting my needs is offered at £49 :erm: will see what happens

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It's definitely available on some offers 😉

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

On paper there won’t be any TNT offers the question is who will give you £18 off your bill.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

any tips....dms are open ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes
Channel Update slates being prepared for channels 587, 588, 589, 590 & 591.
Those channel numbers don't mean a lot in isolation but deduct the number 60 from them and they bear a remarkable resemblance to the TNT Sports channel numbers!!!
Also a couple of promotional rebrands.
For full details of these and other changes see: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com/
Although, perhaps not full details of the 587-591 channel numbers as there is no speculation on the blog.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

U&W as a trademark has been opposed by Utility Warehouse (UW)
https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tm.../UK00003983838

Would be funny if they have to rebrand it.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Give them time, and they’ll rebrand all the channels again by dropping the U&.

I wonder how much Cher cost them.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I remember you posting that they did this before the UKTV channels were withdrawn. Looking like Virgin mean business.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Just a cautious approach I suppose. If the negotiations go bad they will have closure slates prepared. If all goes well, the slates won't be needed. I'm not sure about the details of what happened with the UKTV channel removal farce. I was, sort of, following the narrative but was tied up doing technical analysis for a couple of European companies 2018 - 2020. The pandemic ended that line of work.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You have really weird sense of humour :cool:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

what would they be replacing it with? some snide deal with premier sports or something to go

"Yep we lost tnt sports butttttttt heres some premier sports"

its what they did when they lost the uk tv channels isn't it. cant remember what they replaced them with mind. maybe mediaboy can remind me!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Stuff like Horse & Country and Blaze and a lot of free channels which Virgin had previously not provided. I seem to remember that they also put duplicate versions of some random, supposedly similar, channels on the old UKTV EPG slots. It was a mess but not something they could really repeat with this situation.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

From July 31st at 10am Adult Phone in channel 'Meets the Babes' is set to close on Virgin Media UK.

Source: V6.

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All of the following channels did launch on July 21st 2018 a day before UKTV was axe for about three weeks.

Paramount Network HD
Paramount Network
YourTV
Vice
True Entertainment +1
Crime + Investigation HD
Crime + Investigation +1
Lifetime +1
Love Nature HD
Love Nature
ZooMoo HD
Horse + Country
HISTORY HD
Now 80s
FreeSports

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Nothing is set to happen on August 1st if TNT Sports UK is removed (Info was right at time of posting).

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MTV Hits UK is set to merge with MTV Hits World from August 1st.

Some MTV Hits UK shows will stay.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Funny how most of the channels added after the UKTV dispute didn't stick around for very long. Didn't Virgin also add Quest HD or something before its official public launch and had to take it off until the official launch date? It seemed to be very chaotic.

MTV consolidation makes sense. With global interest in such channels in decline there's no real reason to run multiple different versions for each international market.

As for Meets the Babes closing, good! Can it also take Babenation/Babestation with it please?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

A) Some of the channels only signed a one year deal or rumours at the time did say the channels got on Virgin for free.

B) You are right on Quest HD.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

One year deals sounds about right, so they filled the EPG in the short term with cheap content to give them an excuse when customers complained about losing channels.
Blue Ant Media's ZooMoo and Love Nature were quite decent channels in their own right so a pity they didn't stick around for longer. That's not a cue for Virgin TV to bring them back to replace TNT Sports. :D

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Meets the Babes also broadcast under other names:

Astra UK - Get Lucky
Freeview - Smile TV3*
Virgin UK - Meets the Babes

*Maybe sister Channel Babestation will move into Smile TV3 slot on Freeview on COM5.

So that Babestation can give up it slot on COM6 as channel do Timeshares with PBS America, Together TV +1 and Jewellery Maker.

Rumour online months ago did say that Xpanded TV was set to close on Freeview but that did not happen.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

RUMOUR:

I have just been given unconfirmed post on X that says 'TNT will still be available next month, don't worry'

I am still waiting to get this rumour confirmed.

If anyone can help me - PM me.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Was this from a usually reliable source or did it come out of nowhere?

If a deal cannot be struck, I wonder if VM will settle for Discovery+ instead?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Sounds like a Retentions source. ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It appears it's based on this article published on Monday which is advertising August.
https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...rts-this-month

Not that I think that necessarily means anything since there has no been announcement about a new deal either.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Why would Virgin agree to an average streaming app over the premium linear channels?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

2030 or 2035 or whatever year dystopia is currently predicted to arrive.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Um, he said "why", not "when" ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Oh I know but he asked OLD BOY. So 2030 etc is the answer to everything. ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Horse & Country were already consulting their audience as to their preferred delivery method at the time they joined Virgin, as broadcast costs were increasing. They made the decision to leave Sky at the end of January 2020, but remained on Virgin until the end of July.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Been offered bigger combo for £64

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I do find it disappointing that a forum which boasts so much good technical knowledge just doesn't seem to attract contributions that are rather more progressive than this.

None of the regular contributors appear to be willing to address the revolutionary change that will soon be apparent to all TV viewers.

The answer to the question posed in this post is simple. TNT does not intend to keep the status quo of providing linear TV channels for any longer than is necessary. In the foreseeable future - sport will be presented through streaming only, and this also applies to Sky.

Some may wish to bury their heads in the sand, and that's fine. Those with open minds can read this, do their own research, and make up their own minds. I hope I've been of service to them.

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...184109.article

[EXTRACT]

What is shown is another area that will be adapted, with a greater focus on live content and analysis being moved to digital platforms. Young said: “discovery+ will become the home of this, where they can stay with our pundits as they continue on with what we’re broadcasting, or even see preview shows that will start on discovery+. So eventually you will see us go from Premier League coverage on a Saturday morning directly to Premiership rugby.” An example of this is that the Champions League goals show will be moved to discovery+, becoming a companion programme.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I find it disappointing that the most pre-eminent free market capitalist ignores er, the market, in terms of consumption of television. In particular live sports.

People who want to watch TNT want to watch live sports. No amount of punditry on an app will ever compensate for that. What happens in the future remains to be seen however here today, as we sit, Discovery+ is no substitute for live, linear, TNT Sports.

This is reflected in the value of the rights paid for, and retail price, of top dollar premium content that will be delivered linear on platforms for many, many years to come.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It could be argued that the revolutionary change has already happened and has peaked. With some streamers now facing churn, realising that moving away from reselling content to third party operators starved them of a valuable source of revenue.

Attempting to argue that the "revolution" will continue exponentially is flawed, an ideology that doesn't really work across the whole market.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I'm not sure an article about a vastly debt-ridden company over a year old will assist us much to future gaze in 2024. Current talk about Warner Brothers Discovery is around asset disposals and even breaking it up.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Streaming is so much of a revolution in sports Sky have been doing it for 15 years on Xbox consoles. :rofl:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Yes, exactly.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

If streaming becomes the standard, might as well get a good IPTV the only reason for paying for Sky and TNT via Cable or Dish is 4K and/or it is more live, ie betting or messaging friends during the game you will know there's a goal way before you see it, even when everyone is forced to stream everyone will see the goal at different times depending on the standard of the stream ie 4K would have a bigger delay than 720p

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You do appreciate that you can stream live, don’t you, jfman?

Of course you do, so why make this silly comment?

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Indeed, it has happened. It’s being rolled out and more innovations and content is being added all the time.

It is the phasing out of the old system that we are talking about now.

The technology is not flawed. It is developing all the time and audiences are increasing.

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It is a continuing revolution and intelligent audiences a have already been won over. Others lag behind, but they will catch up eventually.

Broadband rollout has been a major problem, but most homes have now finally been connected.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Have you got any evidence that "intelligence" is in any way linked to wanting to overpay for content providers that don't actually show the content that you want to see?

What silly comment? You yourself conceded that Discovery+ is an inferior offer.

Why settle?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Is that your best argument against our streaming future, Andrew? The problems being experienced by some streaming companies is not relevant to this argument.

The main problem Discovery+ has is with its programme quality. This should improve with more scripted content - and producing more intelligent documentaries would certainly help.

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Are you seriously questioning the fact that streaming in most areas (other than sport) is cheaper than bundled TV channels?

I’ve pointed out repeatedly that there will be consolidation when it comes to sport streamers, although popular demand will always push up prices. Just look at boxing and premier league football as examples.

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That wasn’t what I said was ‘silly’. What was silly was this:

‘People who want to watch TNT want to watch live sports. No amount of punditry on an app will ever compensate for that.’

It sounded very much like you were failing to acknowledge that you can stream live sport. What else could you have meant?

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Eh? If they can’t do a deal on TNT, maybe they can finally bring Discovery+ to the platform instead, which was meant to be coming this year, by the way.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Absolutely, OB. One only has to take two or three general entertainment subscription services to suddenly find themselves paying over the odds compared to traditional TV platforms.

I've been pointing out to you that Sky have been streaming sport for over fifteen years.

And why should I, a rational consumer in the marketplace, settle for this higher cost, lower quality offering from Discovery+ compared to TNT Sports that I get in my Virgin Media package?

Even for those that pay £18 a month through Virgin. Why should they, also rational consumers in the marketplace, pay the retail price of £30.99 a month to get Discovery+ with TNT Sports just to indulge your streaming fantasy?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Ah yes, the cult of 2030. The belief that audiences will continue to increase, even though some streamers already have declining numbers.

To continue to grow the audience, streamers have to endlessly produce new, quality content to keep the viewers interested. They grew their audience share initially by running at a loss. The trouble is, they can't keep running at a loss indefinitely. If the profits aren't there, the shareholders kill the projects. If the streamers cut costs and therefore the quality / quantity of content or both, the viewers will lose interest and stop subscribing. It is already happening with Apple & Paramount+ in the UK. That's the reality.

The cult of 2030 won't accept any of this, of course.

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Pfft! that sort of realistic statement has no place in the cult ideology. ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I suspect the incumbents around the world will be proven right not to prop up every streamer with no business model. Once the streamers have mostly put themselves out of business operators can pick up carriage deals with the one or two left.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I don't see any improvements happening with Discovery+ somehow not now anyway, it will stopped being used for Live Sport streaming when Max launches in the UK in 2026 probably before the Winter Olympics

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:
Sky Sports Arena channels renamed Sky Sports+.
The Channel Update slates (for TNT Sports service removals) move a stage closer to being launched as the hide flags have been removed.
First the slate services have to be added to the NIT of customer networks and have video feeds added.
Further information: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

That's exactly what they are doing for a month at least.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I suspect Virgin will take this to the wire to see if TNT blinks first. I doubt that we will lose the content, but we could lose the channels.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Happened twice before, with Sky One, and UKTV. They disappeared for weeks, it was a great time to get a good deal put of VM as customers kicked off big time.

One things for certain, it will be resolved before the Premiership starts, can't have those hard up players losing wages.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The lack of any communication from Virgin or WBD by now is a sign of that.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

FT: Virgin Media UK 'closing in' on new deal with TNT Sports UK

https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...in-on-new.html

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

:rofl:

There is zero chance of Virgin streaming TNT Sports through Discovery+ as an alternative to linear channels in the EPG.

Absolutely zero.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

To be clear, I don’t think it will happen, but if a deal can’t be done with TNT, it’s that or nothing.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

TNT will provide the product in the manner that VMO2 demand it.

Unlike you the ultimate shareholders of the joint venture are tech agnostic. A linear dollar is worth the same as a streaming dollar.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Although the channel is scheduled to continue overnight, end of service / placeholder flags have now been added to "protect any recordings for a short period following the removal of the service".
Further information: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Meets the Babes did stop broadcasting at about 8am.
Then after 9am Virgin put a sign up saying 'Channel no longer broadcasting'.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Does your Mum know about these viewing habits MB ? ;) Wait till she gets the bill....

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The placeholder flag has also been removed so any recordings should no longer be playable, which makes far more sense than the previous arrangement for a pseudo "shopping" service.
The closure message slate is using the original video stream.
Further information: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

BREAKING:

News just in from A Media Boy UK Source:

Since 25 July VM customers that are on the XGS-PON network & have the Mega TV package can now have up to 6 stream boxes.

More info can be found https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...ght/true#M5899

*It's £10 extra a month for the first additional Stream box
*Then £5 extra a month for each additional box after the first two (the same charge as with tivo, V6 and 360 boxes).

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The page you are trying to access was not found. Please check your URL for typos and try again.

Your link is either broken or deleted.


8th post
https://community.virginmedia.com/t5...x/td-p/5482769. Try this one

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

From August 1st to August 31st Premier Sports Channels will be FREE to all Virgin UK Viewers.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...n-tv-this-week

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The XGS-PON network isn't compatible with the TV network carried on hybrid cable and RFoG networks, so it makes sense that Virgin would improve their TV packages by allowing further Stream devices.
However, it seems from the posts on the community forum that adding extra devices may not run smoothly.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

A summary of the last night's changes
Talk TV placeholder removed after 93 days - any recordings should no longer be playable.
Premier Sports 1 & Premier Sports 2 have had free to view override codes added, making them available to all viewers
Sky Sports + channels have reverted to the Sky Sports Arena service names.
2 movie channels with promotional rebrands.
Further information: https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

A late update today due to technical issues.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

TNT Sports has resign with Virgin Media UK

Can anyone confirmed if TNT Sports is broadcasting on TV Packages like Mega for do viewers need to pay £18 per month.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It hasn't been added to Mega. That would have been a major shock.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The subs codes hadn't changed last night. It isn't in Mega and was removed from Maxit when the letters were sent out. Maxit customers wanting to keep TNT Sports will have had the TNT Sports stand-alone package added at no extra cost (for now at least).

Update: no changes since last night.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Can't see them doing a U turn and reinstating it to Maxit now. I guess it's up to every man / woman for themselves now to ring up and negotiate.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Is there confirmation of a deal anywhere or is this just based on the fact the channels are still on.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Also you can now order this weekend's Wrestling and Boxing that is being shown on TNT Sports Box Office.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I mean, that’s a positive sign but it could simply be they’ve extended on existing terms for X days while negotiations continue.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Box Office could be a different contract.

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That's what I thought, rollover contracts until they either reach an agreement or deadlock.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You can buy DAZN, Sky Sports or TNT Sport Box Office FIVE days before it broadcast (That would have been Monday).

But the Wrestling and Boxing only appeared after 10am today.

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Also FT was reporting on Tuesday:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It's a good sign of progress that the services are still there but not conclusive evidence of it. Unless there is a situation, such as the UKTV dispute, where the negotiations spill over into a public row, there is little chance of finding out what is actually happening with any negotiations.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

With football, rugby union, MMA, motorsport and more, there’s superb sporting action on Premier Sports – and you’ve got the whole of August to watch it, on us

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...premier-sports

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I think Virgin or TNT Sports won't reveal that deal has been resigned.

It was The Times and FT who updated us.

Also Virgin has all TNT Sports linear channels since 2018 when TNT Sports UHD did launch as part of 2018's new deal.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Digital Spy Forum is reporting that GREAT! Christmas will starts on September 5th.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Wonder if I can pay extra not to have that channel ?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

When is Sky Sports+ launching? Do we know how many streams we'll get? i assume it'll differ between the type of box you have?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Well all the games are on it next weekend, so launch must be soon.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Update:

Sky Sports+ streaming app will become available on August 6.

Linear channel appears on August 8

However, all the streams will only be available on Virgin Media 360 boxes and Virgin Media Stream.

But the new Sky Sports+ linear channel will be available no matter what box you have.

-------

No idea if thats been confirmed already so apologies if it has.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I have seen unconfirmed reports that Sky Sports streaming app will be added to V6 Boxes 'At the later date'.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

If you can't get Sky stream vpn is your friend, and far cheaper ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You should be able to use the regular Sky Sports app on andriod/IOS devices to get the extra streams as they are active.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It took Premier Sports no time in using the extra money Premier Sports got off Virgin Media UK this month

Premier Sports has just reveal that Rangers’ European adventure to Poland to play Dynamo Kyiv will be shown LIVE on Premier Sports 1 from 7pm on August 6th.

https://x.com/PremSportsTV/status/1820478521417814361

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

And free for all VM tv customers.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

That's Memories (Virgin UK Channel 296) will start to show comedy from Tuesday 6th August. Hancock half hour, Yes Minister, Kenny Everett Video Show, Benny Hill, The Thick Of It and Harry Enfield.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It looks like they have signed a full deal. Last week, ads for TNT Sports that were running on ITVX only listed Discovery+, EE and Sky at the end, tonight the ad includes Virgin Media too.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Meanwhile, Virgin seem to be ramping up their campaign to get customers to renew their contracts. The renewed contracts will not include TNT Sports unless purchased as an add-on.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

new sky sports app launches today with the sky sports+ add ons. lots of football this weekend!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The problem I find with the renewal emails is that they don't tell you what the price is , only "a little more" unless you press the renew contract button. I don't intend to do that as I've been caught before with another subscription where, rather than giving you options, it just renewed the contract.
Having some discounts on the current contract I think I'll cancel and see if I get a decent offer. Sky subscribers do seem to be having the same issues with pricing though.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Are we getting an app in apps section of 360 boxes? Or will it be via red button? Seen different views on whether we'll get an actual app or not!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It is on the RED button on Sky Sports.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It doesn't, it just lists the new terms which you then have to review and accept (or just completely ignore). I know what you are saying though and I thought exactly the same thing.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

got the tv360 today. have to say its a nice little machine and quite speedy. i do like how all my streaming apps are built in and can be searched in one space. bit weird how they're really pushing the recordings on the far right hand side of the screen....on demand is king it seems for virgin media but it makes sense for them i suppose.

Only issue is being able to fast forward quicker. used to be able to jump to the next chapter of a recording (if thats what they called it....it was like a line in the recording every 15 mins and you could jump to it with the arrow to the right and a line on the tivo remote next to the magnify glass on the v6 remote.

other than that i'll keep messing about with it. seems a nice box. set up my series links again even though i dont think they're called series links anymore...

can't see anything i dislike with the tv360 so far. i'm sure theres a lot of little advantages with it i need to learn.

a reasonable offer too for the next 18 months just took a lot longer to get it.

Also apparently my internet wiring is wrong and its too "thin" that was discovered by the engineer. so i'm getting a wider wire installed in the front garden.

i kept all 3 big boxes and no mini boxes. so i assume the recordings will be kept separate as a result?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

this is really helpful newapollo! thank you so much.

so recordings will technically show on all 3 boxes unless you specify what box? handy i suppose.

how much storage is there in the cloud? for example is the cloud capacity the same as the three v6's combined or less?

thanks again!

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quick question....where do watch lists appear? i thought it would for example record the episode the next time it was on. but apparently it just gives you quick access to it once its available on demand?

still no idea where watch lists appear though!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Watch lists are near the bottom of the home screen.
If you have watched an individual recording you often see the next one appear in continue watching section.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

"skip three minutes" also works

The Home button gets you there too.

You don't have any storage for actual recordings in the cloud. Only the data about your recordings is stored there. The recordings are on your boxes. But you have a bit more space for recordings than you did on V6 because the V6 also uses the hard drive for other things like the guide

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I find it best to use the ‘add to watchlist’ option rather than the ‘record’ option in most cases. My hard drive is much freer these days.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Freer for what purpose?