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PS, not my village in the screen dump, that’s just a page I subscribe to.;)

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. Woodward, of course, spelled out their priorities in one of those absurd investor calls - “playing performance doesn’t really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business” - and it will be the epitaph that follows him when he eventually leaves.

All you need to know about Woodward’s total lack of suitability.:rolleyes:

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The thing is Jim Woodward is the patsy fall guy for the owners as sadly it seems they will still be there in the next few years and even if Woodward goes won't they will replace him with another patsy.

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Woodward is no patsy, he was the main mover behind the Glazers takeover in the first place. As long as they can keep bleeding money out of the club he is safe.

Ominous for Liverpool scoring first, Wolves record when going behind as they nearly always do is impressive.

A stat that surprised me, until Salah scored in the 93 minute last week, Rashford, Martial ans Greenwood had scored more goals this season than Mane, Firmino and Salah.

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Woodward advised them and in return got a nice cushy well paid job and in the blame game he will be the one taking the rap if heads roll as it won't be the Glazers upping sticks and going elsewhere that is for sure.

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That concerns me.:Yikes::eeek:

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l am still not convinced about Martial but United really do need to make sure they look after Rashford and Greenwood but the omens are not good given Rashford was playing when he should not have been playing as he clearly was unfit and nursing a injury.

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Tickled me...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1579896323

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Takeover V: The return of the Staveley.

Amanda Staveley has been in talks with Mike Ashley about another takeover attempt of Newcastle United. This time she's openly backed by the Saudi Royals.

https://www.skysports.com/amp/footba...-buy-newcastle

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Not sure l have any more belief that anything concrete will happen this time just like the time before.

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Not to worry we'll have 3 sequels by August.

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Project Zebra has emerged and Staveleys old Newcastle purchasing company has become active again. The potential acquisition is a three way split. Saudi Arabia, Amanda Staveley and the Ruebens.

The split is touted at 80/10/10 with Saudi leading the way.

All seems to be happening a bit quick. From breaking news to companies being registered again.

Just a casual £1.4 trillion between them though. Not sure how it's managed to remain secret for four months and then just happen to leak and go wild on a single day. Wonder who's launching the next takeover :D

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Good grief Tranmere's pitch looks like a return to the 70's.:shocked:

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It's rare to see a mud heap like that even in the lower league's.
Given the start perhaps they should plough Old Trafford. :D

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l am surprised that the standard of the pitch was not questioned given they like things to be a certain standard nowadays.

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The supporters might put themselves up for that job.:D

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FT and Wall street journal report Mike Ashley told his accountants that Newcastle United was disappearing from the books. This is fairly insane. Two massive sources reporting the same story.
https://www.ft.com/content/daafd602-...7-eae9bd51ceba

Imagine knowing you're hosting Man United and turning out with that monstrosity of a pitch.

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Tranmere boardroom conversation

Well chaps, we host Man Utd in a few days and the pitch is in a terrible condition

We could get contractors in to tart it up for the TV, but then we couldn't afford to pay the players & staff this month

hmmm, and the police bill will be larger than usual too . . . sod it, it's only Man Utd :D

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With all the modern pitch technology these days it’s unusual to see any in that state, the Shrewsbury pitch was perfect. Can’t be doing Tranmere any favours either?:rolleyes:

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A great comeback by Shrewsbury and a very tasty further payday in the bargain as well.

Tranmere's pitch looked like a ploughed field and maybe its the incessant rain this winter that has done the damage.

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But all the pitches in this area have had the same amount and I can’t think of any that are remotely as bad as that.

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What other reasons could one give for the state of their pitch?.

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Lack of maintenance/investment, I am not privy to the exact reasons.

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But was there not a standard that all clubs have to adhere to in terms of the standard of their pitch.

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Well, well, a strong possibility that Wayne will face United in the next round.:cool:

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On Man United's current form the old stager would still get into the current eleven.;)

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Businessman Yasir Al-Rumayyan is expected to become the chairman of Newcastle United if the Saudi Arabian-backed consortium takes control of the Premier League club. [Telegraph] #NUFC

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Looks like Staveley and Co were the ones that leaked takeover talks. They're saying everything is done and the club could be sold in the next 48 hours. Effectively saying the only obstacle is Mike Ashley's signature.

Translation being that this could be catastrophic for the club that failed to sell 10,000 season tickets and has routinely undersold games all season because of a failed takeover in the summer. If he fails to sell now he may just hit a nail he can't take back out. Nice bit of destabilisation for the rest of the season.

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United sign Fernandes, only another five or six needed now.:D

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Come on Mr Pessimism it cannot be that bad.:D:D

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Well Wembley is that little bit closer for those yearning United fans tonight.;)

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Straight red card offence by Sterling imho.:mad:

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Could be more reds here, getting a bit spicy. :(

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Never has there been so much drama in a match.

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Anyone with a interest in football should watch 'Inside No9' from last night, brilliant :D
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...the-referees-a

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l might give that a watch.

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Watched it last night, very funny.:D

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Is the Liverpool game not on tv, I can only find Oxford v Toon on BBC.

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No from what l can ascertain Jim there is no live feed at all.

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:(

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Indeed the BBC chose one of the other matches.:td:

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Well the Liverpool players and manager haven't bothered with this game, so why should the TV cameras?

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The winter break was agreed by the clubs with the authorities for 14 days so no blame can be aimed at the Premier League clubs at all.

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It's the FA Cup Den, it would have meant everything to everyone not so long ago.

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And they were told that FA Cup replays would be played in the first week of the break if needed.

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Might tell my boss I'm having a winter break and May to August off, let's see how it goes down !

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l don't care what cup it is as a winter break is a winter break and the policy was agreed by all the relevant parties as you can't suddenly make a agreed policy and then change it just because a few malcontents are having a grumble.

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And the FA knew that so quite obviously must have known that the Premier league clubs 1st team squads would not be involved.

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LiVARpool strikes again.:(

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Now now Jim that's very unfair.:D:D

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Well they certainly picked the best game for tv, come on Oxford.:D

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But was you not preferring to watch Liverpool if it was on TV.;)

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Not really, may have skipped between the two, this game great goals, a brave but futile come back. It wasn’t ruined by dubious VAR decisions, and a fluky own goal.;)

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Surely you are not one of those who believe Liverpool are in the position they are because of VAR as that is the theory that is doing the rounds..:D:D

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No, they are there because they are a good team at a time when all of the rest are ‘in transition’.

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l don't disagree that several of the top sides are in transition although l don't think that sentiment applies to Man City.

Some were saying the Premier League was uncompetive because of Liverpool and that some of the not so fashionable sides are doing well but the actual statistics say otherwise.

My view is Man City set the benchmark for several years , Liverpool have followed on from that and its up to the others to get up to that level.

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Amusing report about Southend manager Sol Campbell referring to his team as Southampton in an interview HERE

Even more amusing is this snippet from the article.....

:rolleyes:

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Manchester City banned from Champions League for next two seasons by Uefa.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51510284

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£30 million fine too, wonder whose pocket that goes into ?

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Does the £25m(30m Euros) get added into the club's accounts and add to their problems of sticking to FFP rules?

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Unsure. Either way they'll have the option to stagger the payment giving it fairly little consequence anyway. The investigation period in question ended in 2016. Since then City's revenue has undoubtedly grown so they don't really have an issue of meeting FFP legislation anymore. The loss of revenue from missing out on two seasons of Champions League money is worse than the fine.

Not sure the ban will be upheld either. The appeal will already postpone the ban at least a season. Following that being upheld they'll head to the Swiss supreme Court which in turn postpones it until resolved.

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Methinks this is going to run and run..

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Did not some other big European clubs overturn their bans on appeal?.

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Not sure about that Nomad.

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PSG and Milan. PSG avoided the ban and Milan negotiated a one year ban which already sets the basis for City at the CAS. It seems at the very most they'll only serve a year ban. City have the money to take it even further though. Uefa struck a deal with Milan to avoid this.

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They broke the rules, they should take the consequences. Farsley Celtic should take their Champions League place imho ;)

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It's gone long past being as straight forward as Rules & Consequences, now it's more a case of having the influence and financial clout to get away with stuff.

The tail has been wagging the dog for years now ;)

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Notice its generally the English clubs who bought themselves into the top table rather then those who have always been there.;)

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Atm there is only City and Chelski from England although Wolves and Sheffield United’s owners are throwing the cash at their teams. PSG have been doing it for years as well. In all honesty is FFP any worse than the massive financial assistance given to Madrid and Barca via dodgy government stitch ups that have gone on for decades?

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Of course UEFA as usual will turn the other way with regards to Madrid and Barca as they don't want to rock the boat there it seems.

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And that is supposedly not a handball in the Southampton match.:td:

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We were never going to get given that Den.

Completely kicked of the park by the new Stoke.

Vile club of cloggers destroyed any chance of a decent game :rolleyes:

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Why as they were giving penalty decisions for far less then that earlier this season.

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Functional and over physical not my type of football.

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Only two shots on target suggests Saints have only themselves to blame.;)

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Burnley did not exactly give the keeper much to do either.;)

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Six on target, second one a great finish.:p:

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The parameters used for shots on target are much exaggerated nowadays.:p:

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Even the parameters are as well.:p: :D

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Naughty naughty me.:p:

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PSG's head will roll next.

Uefa will lose overall. FFP might be right but its enforcement will only stir talk of a Super League away from domestic leagues and the champions league.

Whether you like it or not, the champions league is about big players going head to head. This is a no win scenario if you're not already a giant club.

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:LOL::LOL::LOL:

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That obviously cheered you up.:D

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Well Liverpool have wrapped up the Premiership, as they will not be challenged.

Everyone else 2nd will be their win.

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Well even football pessimists like me are starting to believe.:D:D

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Yep it’s difficult to get shots in when you are systematically assaulted en route to the goal. ;)

As I said Burnley are the new Stoke. Classless thugs.

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But Saints have the worst home record in the division, can't blame that on Burnley. 😉

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If MC win the appeal then UEFA is a joke.

MC need to man up and accept the punishment, going by what I heard they cheated and got found out,

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It's not just Man City, there are probably half a dozen clubs this season facing possible points reductions and/or fines for irregularities . . . and they're all kicking and screaming looking for a 'get out of jail free' card.

If nothing happens, you can expect all the clubs that have played by the rules to simply ignore them in future :rolleyes:

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QThis. Man City were actually expecting this and have conducted private investigations into all top European clubs. Its an absolute mess waiting to happen.

I can't see an outright appeal win but its just as unlikely they'll be serving a 2 year suspension. The papers are stirring up Sheffield fans for potentially naf all. Any appeal knocks back the suspension until resolved.

Uefa have opened Pandoras box. Although I love the part where one corrupt organisation tells the other that they're corrupt. :erm: Fun fact though, PSG's chairman serves on the board at Uefa and was implicated in the Qatari would cup corruption scandal.

The Super League discussions are going to rear their ugly head again, mark my words.


Newcastle vs Arsenal though.

- Saint-Maximin is a great talent.
- Joelinton is a special kind of crap.
- Empty seats. Lots of noticeable empty seats.

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And Arsenal have just scored two in quick succession.:shocked:

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They do indeed and I'm not. :)

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Love this.:D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/51517792

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Absolutely wonderful.:D

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One of the true Man United legends but more then that a hero of the terrible 1958 Munich air disaster.:(

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co...-live-17757636

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/51523874

Stevenage are down then, really sad. Probably going to be the first team confirmed as relegated.

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Interesting


Manchester City could be punished like Saracens and be kicked out of the Premier League for breaking financial fair play rules, believes Jamie O’Hara. Those claims come amid reports that, as well as their two-year ban from European football, City could potentially be hit with a points deduction and may even be forced to drop down into LEAGUE TWO.



https://talksport.com/football/67038...ns-league-ban/

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Some interesting questions by Kaveh Solhekol, Sky Sports News reporter.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...ered-questions

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But should Maguire still be on the pitch? Or is Antony Taylor the new Howard Webb. ;)

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Always been a big fan of VAR.:D

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The simple answer is no and be aware of VAR as it might bite back just when you do not want it to do.;)

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We have been on the wrong end of several iffy VAR decisions already this season, our turn to get the rub of the green.:p:

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Of course listen to some fans and they think we are top of the league because VAR has been our 12th man.:rofl:

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Who is this Var bloke? He sounds handy.

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Ask Jim he has more experience of it.;)

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It’s a poor mans version of DRS.;)

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It's close to being true, it's by no means a 12th man. Without VAR the gap would be 6 points. Brighton have had the most VAR decisions. Followed by Man United. Liverpool only have a net VAR result of 1 decision FOR when balanced against the overturns and against. However when other teams get taken into consideration, Man City stay pretty close.

The worst off being Wolves and Sheffield United. Which would've left Wolves 7 points clear of Man United in 5th.

It's impossible to deny VAR has had an absolute effect on league going ons. Liverpool would still be top but the gap and VAR conclusions are solid evidence on the impact its had. In fact strangely enough the only Premier League team that hasn't gained or dropped points through VAR is Newcastle. With a total of one decision in a game they were already winning.

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In terms of net points gained from VAR, you're second in the list. 8 VAR decisions, 6 went in your favour and two against. The last time a VAR decision actively led to a goal against was Arsenal at home. There's not been a single VAR decision that changed the net outcome of a game for Man United since September 30th and without the same net results of VAR, as above you'd be 7 points behind Wolves. You're a single decision away from being the most favoured team for VAR decisions.

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3 in one game last night helped to influence those figures. 😉

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Only two count towards the net of directly influencing the result of a game. Otherwise that would put you top. Think actual penalties, goals and offsides etc.

Only decisions that have a direct effect on the score of the game have been totalled. Indirect decisions like red cards and so forth haven't been scored in a net system. Otherwise Chelsea would get a net gain by claiming Harry Maguire should've been sent off and then they'd have won the game which is far less of a reality than hard goal decisions.

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This is diabolical football for Champions League level. You'd think Liverpool were playing Stoke.

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Full house at the Emptyhead tonight.:rolleyes: